Monday, May 05, 2008

Without Credible Reason

I think there are some white people who would never ever vote for Senator Obama or any other black man or woman.

Perhaps these same people cannot condone giving up what they see as their last grasp on their superiority over African Americans. If a black man can become president of the United States he will have achieved a position that has until now been the private domain of white males. I don’t know if seeing a black man in the oval office frightens these people or angers them or both. They may vote for Senator Clinton because, even though she’s a woman, at least she’s a white woman.

These are the people you could talk to until you were blue in the face and you just couldn’t change their mind. They are so comfortable in their denial that they have no desire to change. They may be poor or ignorant or whatever but they take pride in the fact that at least they aren’t “black”. To them that elevates them in some way, even if it’s only in their own mind.

I believe I can backup my opinions here by telling you that my own father would have been one of these people. If he were alive today he would be one of the people that this post describes. No matter what else he was, poor, a drunk, a terrible father and husband, he took pride in the fact that at least he wasn’t black.

Of course his reasoning was not credible and made no sense in any way, but I suppose in his mind that fact buoyed him above the harshness of his own reality in some pathetic way.


Blogger FranIAm said...

A sad but true commentary, I believe.

Oh I want to weep and weep and then scream and scream.

May 05, 2008 4:00 AM  
Blogger diamondmc said...

This has been what the whole Rev Wright issue has been about. If wright was white and Obama wasn't running no one would care what this Minister had to say. There still are alot of left of center white folks who will never vote for a black man thou they will give alot of other reasons for not voting for him. Its sad to say, but racism is alive and well with some so called progressive's and left leaning democrats. Racism and sexism is not just the rightwing's problem, its all are problem.

May 05, 2008 4:37 AM  
Blogger fallenmonk said...

The more things change the more they stay the same. It will always be that way and if not blacks then some other minority.
We just have to wish that at some point the sane people out number the insane ones.

Happy Cinco de Mayo!

May 05, 2008 5:06 AM  
Blogger mommanator said...

Very well said- I thought you were off politics for awhile

May 05, 2008 5:34 AM  
Blogger Sherry said...

yes, i think that has been a feeling a lot have people had and still have. i also think it has been nurtured and grown by the haves in this world.

there's a lot more, have nots, that prejudice kept/keeps apart into seperate more "managable" groups.

May 05, 2008 6:03 AM  
Blogger SB Gypsy said...

I can believe it: I read a survey that americans, given their free choice between

- living in an economy where their neighbor made less than them -

or, in one where they made more money, and their neighbor made the same as they did -

70% of americans chose to live in the first rather than the second.

May 05, 2008 6:12 AM  
Blogger roger said...

myself would greatly prefer to not vote for anyone who is churchly.

May 05, 2008 6:43 AM  
Blogger robin andrea said...

My older brother who lives in Virginia tells me exactly what you say here. He's incredibly disappointed, but knows that there are people who will never vote for a black man. Seems amazing, doesn't it? I heard a black man ask Thom Hartmann on Air America the other day: What are they afraid of? Good question. We really do live in a pretty creepy country.

May 05, 2008 7:19 AM  
Blogger diamondmc said...

Hey, in those little pea brained bigots heads, the only true americans are white god fearing men. Women don't rank either.

May 05, 2008 7:27 AM  
Blogger Dean Wormer said...

I have to say that even though I consider my own choice for who to support to mainly issue oriented, the thought of a president Hillary or a president Barack would do to the sexists/ racists in our society does give me an evil sense of glee.

Their heads would explode.

All your whitehouse are belong to us.

May 05, 2008 9:24 AM  
Blogger T&A said...

My father in law is a good example of this type of thinking. When we were over for X-mas, Obama came on the TV, my FIL said pointedly, "I wouldn't vote for him if he was the last candidate standing." I didn't need to ask why, it's no secret his opinion of African Americans is very low. It's truly sad.

May 05, 2008 9:33 AM  
Blogger Mike said...

I live in a small farming community here in Michigan and it is full of some really great people that would give you the shirt off their backs. I have had and heard many conversations about Barack Obama that usually end with the line, "well he probably is a great guy, but I'd never vote for him."

More often than not, they don't say why, but it is easy to figure it out. America has come a long long way, but apparently, we still have a long way to go.

And yeah, my mom is one of those people. She won't even give Barack credit for being a great guy.

May 05, 2008 9:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great observations, PoP. Just this morning someone asked me what I thought of Rev. Wright. I asked him what he thought of Rev. Hagee. Funny, he hadn't heard of Rev. Hagee.

I was happy to bring him up to speed.

May 05, 2008 9:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well shazamm,I'd damn sure be votin for that negro boy.

May 05, 2008 10:38 AM  
Anonymous Crian said...

I don't think I have ever heard anything more true. I believe that some people will vote for Senator Clinton because she is better than a black man. It is sad but hopefully this won't deter Senator Obama from winning the nomination.

May 05, 2008 11:49 AM  
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May 05, 2008 3:37 PM  
Blogger WeezieLou said...

i'm voting for senator clinton bcs i think she's better qualified. but if she loses the nomination, i'll certainly back obama.

one of the connundrums of this fascinating race is that one risks being called racist or sexist simply by declaring their choice of candidate. a pox on those who make it that simplistic!

May 05, 2008 4:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Its Sheila, (1) Belated Happy Birthday from a fellow April Baby.

(2) You must be peeking at Trial sure hit the nail on the head with this one ;0)


May 05, 2008 7:21 PM  
Blogger Swinebread said...

I know some folks have said that they just don't trust 'em... and I know why, cause he's black... or half black

May 05, 2008 8:07 PM  
Blogger Dr. Know said...

I'm about ready to vote for Fred the cat - because he's not human. And he's both black and white. That should make everyone happy, no?

May 05, 2008 10:49 PM  
Blogger the walking man said...

It will be very interesting to see how the Detroit metro area goes in Nov. Macomb county, which abuts Detroit, is one of the bastions of Regan democrats, in this very segregated area.



May 06, 2008 2:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They may be poor or ignorant or whatever but they take pride in the fact that at least they aren’t “black”.

I know lots of people like this, but the irony of it is that their kids dress, talk, and act like the very black kids their parents are thankful they're not. The upshot? I'm finding that younger kids today are less hung up about race than their parents and grandparents. Give it time. One day we may elect a black man to the Presidency and it could be sooner than we think.

May 06, 2008 5:19 AM  
Blogger ZILLA said...

I can forgive our grandparents more easily than our parents for bigoted thinking. I can't, however, forgive my own generation.

Recently, strolling on the campus of Michigan State University with her future in-laws, my daughter heard her fiance's mother take note of campus cultural diversity with the following remark:

They're taking all of our jobs.

My daughter comes by her righteous violent impulses naturally, yet she failed to punch that f-cking c-nt Ir-sh C-th-l-c b-tch in the mouth, which is how I know I've failed as a parent.

I want a shot at redemption.

May 06, 2008 5:49 PM  
Anonymous Joe the Troll said...

"one of the connundrums of this fascinating race is that one risks being called racist or sexist simply by declaring their choice of candidate. a pox on those who make it that simplistic!"

Well, when Clinton has a clear edge among white, rural people who do not have college degrees, do you really think it's because her policies make more sense to them? I grew up in a similar society in Illinois. The fact that there were no blacks in our town to cause anyone any alarm didn't stop those hicks from hating them.

May 07, 2008 6:07 AM  
Blogger Mauigirl said...

Despite the racism and despite the emphasis on Rev. Wright, somehow Obama has seemed to be able to brush these things off and keep going - not by avoiding it, but by addressing it head on. I hope he can continue to do so.

May 09, 2008 9:57 PM  
Blogger cheyanne said...

Boy oh boy have you struck a raw nerve sister. Coming from that place also where the menfolk might have worked along side the blackfolk by day with no problem, but then go to the local bar after work and if a black man should happen to come in just for a 6-packall heads would turn and make damn well sure he knew that this was a white working man's bar.

I can so relate.

Thanks for striking that raw nerve nobody upon nobody wants to touch with a 10 foot pole.

May 17, 2008 7:04 AM  

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