Monday, September 17, 2007

A Big, Bloody, Oily, Heaping Helping of Betrayal

Last week the MoveOn ad suggested that General Petraeus might betray the American people and the Right went all nuts as they protested such a thought even be suggested. Betrayal, the ultimate treasonous suggestion as related to the military. Forget the thousands who have been killed or maimed in this brutal unnecessary war. Instead be incensed about that one word. The herring is big and it’s bright red.

Speaking of betrayal, seems Alan Greenspan knows we’ve all been betrayed. Our soldiers are not dying in vain, they are dying for oil.
“I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil,” he says.”

“Greenspan, 81, is understood to believe that Saddam Hussein posed a threat to the security of oil supplies in the Middle East.”

How’s that make you feel? You might have thought it, but now you know it.

Speaker Pelosi, now that we have this big, bloody, oily, heaping helping of betrayal, could we have impeachment on the table to clean it up?


Blogger Distributorcap said...

it is also a betrayal that greenspan (and powell and others) DIDNT open their mouths when they were part of the oil-laden administration.

when you have nothing to argue about, you argue about nothing -- hence the Gay Old Party is arguing and directing attention to an ad.

And can we ask Ms Pelosi to send John Boner's daughter's to Iraq since the lives of soldiers are such a small price to pay. Like some GOP hypocrites pay up for a change

September 17, 2007 2:13 AM  
Blogger FranIAm said...

What a disgrace, of course. And D-cap is so right, Greenspan joins the rogues gallery of those who kept silent when speech was needed.

Always, mouths fly open rather conveniently, when one is not only out of harms way, but when one also publishes a book.

Soldiers are dying for oil and egos.


September 17, 2007 4:11 AM  
Blogger Larry said...

Greenspan didn't mind the thousands of bodies flowing in coffins when he was one of the Bush boys.

September 17, 2007 4:16 AM  
Blogger Undeniable Liberal said...

I read somewhere that Greenspan only had it half right. Our goal is to control the oil, not to profit from pumping it, but to profit from keeping it in the ground, keeping prices higher.

September 17, 2007 4:26 AM  
Blogger fallenmonk said...

Greenspan is as guilty as the rest. Keeping silent when the truth can save lives is just as bad as pulling the trigger yourself.

September 17, 2007 5:21 AM  
Blogger SB Gypsy said...

Yes, and now Gates is urging the pretzeldent to veto any bill with the Webb amendment in it... Because the Webb amendment would be a "dangerous back-door drawdown".

And this is the party that gets kudos for "supporting our troops"?????

September 17, 2007 6:53 AM  
Blogger dguzman said...

How much longer can this go on before someone gets a fucking clue and impeaches these TRAITORS to our country and all it used to stand for?

September 17, 2007 7:24 AM  
Blogger Ziem said...

I wish someone could explain to me why treason, crimes against humanity, crimes against the GC, torture... are not impeachable offences, but oral sex is.

I do have an on going fantasy... We all gather and go door to door smacking the bushies and insisting they wake up. Nice dream, eh?

September 17, 2007 7:31 AM  
Blogger Granny said...

At least the ad makes me proud to be a Moveon member.

September 17, 2007 8:04 AM  
Blogger robin andrea said...

Yes, Greenspan's truth-telling is much too late, but I am still glad he actually said it. The war is about oil. Shouldn't that be all over the headlines instead of OJ being arrested?

September 17, 2007 8:53 AM  
Blogger Sherry said...

oj is going to be all over the news.

bread and circuses.

shame on us.

September 17, 2007 9:39 AM  
Blogger Crackpot Press said...

In 2003, I have to admit, like most, I was hoodwinked into believing the lie.

Folks would tell be it was about Oil and I flashbacked to the first Iraq war, where folks said the same thing.

I kept thinking if the first war was about oil then where was it?

We didn't have any extra because of the first war.

But alas I have been proved wrong again.

September 17, 2007 10:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaker Pelosi, now that we have this big, bloody, oily, heaping helping of betrayal, could we have impeachment on the table to clean it up?

Shall we take bets on the likelihood? I think that the table is gonna stay dirty for a while yet.

September 17, 2007 11:36 AM  
Blogger enigma4ever said...

Sadly the table is really full, of so much dirty laundry and other tasteless horrors- but I am sorry Pelosi definently could fit Impeachment on the table- there is plenty of room..and it should be fit before the Elections...
Now about MrGreenspin...what the hell?? how many of these Bushies will come out and say later" oh yeah it was about oil, greed and delusional narcisstic dreams...Where is the Remorse? The Contrition? these idiots are accessories to the Crimes in Iraq...don't they realize their Silence makes them complicit?

September 17, 2007 3:24 PM  
Blogger ZBTzahBTzoo said...

As long as it's an eco-friendly, phosphate-free, chlorine-free, aromatherapy impeachment, I'm all for it. I'm thinking ... a 40% hydrogen peroxide base infused with essential oils of lavender & bushbane.

September 17, 2007 3:42 PM  
Blogger Gracie said...

How nice of Greenspan to speak out now instead of earlier when it could have made a difference. How do these people sleep at night?

The right-wing must have been terribly upset over the "Betrayal" ad given the talking points that dominated after its release. Wonder where all those trillions of dollars are that disappeared under his watch? I hear he wants to be President!!!!!!!!

September 17, 2007 4:39 PM  
Anonymous fairlane said...

"How do these people sleep at night?"

Either with the aid of Xanax or they simply have no conscience.

I'm sure the Dems had no idea right?

"Gee, this war is about dominating worldwide oil supplies? Get the fuck out of here. Seriously?"

September 17, 2007 9:26 PM  
Blogger annie said...

it's all so phony.
i believe very little anymore, if it's via the msm.
besides, impeachment's too good. try bush for war crimes and jail him.
maybe he and oj could be psycho sociopaths together...

September 17, 2007 9:59 PM  
Blogger Anon-Paranoid said...

Remember in Vietnam the troops fragged the officers. Maybe one day soon a soldier will frag our Decider.

One can dream, surly that's not illegal now is it?

God Bless.

September 17, 2007 10:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Greenspan just didn't want to be the one in the room accused of stating the obvious.

Dick is always hardest on the kid who states the obvious.

September 17, 2007 10:10 PM  
Blogger sumo said...

I agree with Monk about Greenspan.

September 18, 2007 12:29 AM  
Anonymous no_slappz said...

Oil. Yeah, the issue of oil is one of the reasons we are fighting in the middle-east.

But so far, everyone posting here has it wrong.

The US government does not seek "control" of oil reserves and oil production.

The US government realizes that oil is crucial to the entire world. If oil supplies are cut back by middle east oil producers, which was happening under Saddam, every oil-consuming nation in the world is hurt.

The nation most able to afford higher oil prices is the US. Meanwhile, it is in the best interest of the US AND every other nation in the world for oil to flow unimpeded by the threats and problems caused by dictators.

If oil production slows, China and India will suffer. Every other developiing nation will suffer. They will suffer because their economies cannot absorb higher oil prices as easily as the US.

Their growing prosperity will evaporate, undoing benefits that have accrued over the last decade.

Oil in the ground is useless if that's where it remains. No one benefits until oil is pumped and used to power all the industries of the world. Meanwhile, growth of every industry in the world is enhanced when energy supplies are cheap and abundant.

But cheap oil disappears when oil-producing nations, like Iran and Iraq, fail to maintain and upgrade their oil oilfields. That's been happening for decades.

The Soviet Union was once the largest oil producer in the world. But, in the usual fashion of bureaucracies, the oil ministry failed to keep the oil industry in good shape. Hence, many oil fields were nearly ruined and production fell a lot.

Meanwhile, during the Soviet era, all Soviet all was consumed internally. That has changed. The Russians and other former Soviet states now want to sell their oil on the world market for cash. But their oil fields produce far less than their theoretical capacity because maintenance had been ignored for decades.

The world needs oil. Lots of it. And the only obvious path to getting more and more oil to the world market -- for the benefit of every citizen on Earth -- is to remove the people who stand in the way. Like Saddam, the Iranian government, and soon, the Chavez dictatorship in Venezuela.

September 18, 2007 5:36 AM  
Blogger Candace said...

I agree with distributorcap and others - it's a damn shame that Greenspan didn't speak out (and I've been disappointed in Colin Powell for a long time, too.)

no_slappz's comment about getting rid of people in the way of oil production is right on, but unfortunately, it was left to Dumbya to find the absolute worst, most idiotic, and costly way (money and lives both) to remove Saddam.

Well, back to the latest on O.J. ...

September 18, 2007 7:56 AM  

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