Wednesday, October 08, 2008

Debate Review

You guys know that there is no way in hell I can stay up and watch these debates. Fred the Cat and I are early to bed and equally early to rise.

So what did you think of the debate? Do you want to vent, rave, rant or what? Let it all out. How would you review last night’s presidential debate?

17 Comments:

Blogger betmo said...

it was allegedly a 'town hall' format but that's not what it came off as. it was a quasi-debate format with regular people- and tom brokaw asking questions and with tom brokaw being the time clock nazi. obama won but mccain didn't explode or implode. or mention any of the mud bible spice has been slinging.

October 08, 2008 5:33 AM  
Blogger fallenmonk said...

The format was awful and Tom Brokaw was predictably bad. There was very little interaction with the audience allowed.
McCain lost soundly as is reflected in all the snap polls by at least a margin of 2:1. Obama was very cool and presidential.
The big line of the night was McCain referring to Obama as "That one"

October 08, 2008 5:47 AM  
Blogger Randal Graves said...

There...are...FOUR lights!

Brokaw sucked, Obama was mellow and McPOW was what Palin will be when she's 72, a bit more skilled with the talking points, but that's about it.

October 08, 2008 6:22 AM  
Blogger LeftLeaningLady said...

I only managed about 20 minutes. Why can't John McCain turn his head without turning his shoulders?

Obama looked great, relaxed and comfortable and actually answered the questions a little before going all politician. He was smooth when he call McCain a liar, I loved it. McCain just kept blaming everything on Obama.

I missed "That one." I am trying to find it on the 'net, but I don't get YouTube at work.

October 08, 2008 6:23 AM  
Blogger mommanator said...

missed it! was driving, but sounds like I didnt miss too much

October 08, 2008 6:41 AM  
Blogger SB Gypsy said...

It was jarring, when McSame said "that one", very rude sounding. I was surprised, and waited for Obama to say something about it, but zip.

There was a definite lack of rebuttal time, and McSame kept lying just as the time was running out - which made the lies seem to stand there all alone on stage for a few seconds before the next question was asked.

Brokaw was in the tank for McSame.

October 08, 2008 7:05 AM  
Blogger Candace said...

After the debate, McCain deflected Obama's outstretched hand to his (McCain's) wife. In other words, he refused to shake Obama's hand, indicating instead that Obama should shake Cindy's hand. Which is weird on two points: one, that he couldn't shake Obama's hand - I mean, what a dipshit, and two, it is *painful* for Cindy McCain to shake anyone's hand! Remember when she had her arm and hand in a brace? That's why she kept standing there with both arms behind her back, to avoid having to use that injured hand. So McCain's like, Here, hurt my wife.

This one's voting for That One. Can't wait 'til the T-shirts come out!

October 08, 2008 8:08 AM  
Blogger Deb said...

I watched the entire thing and should have gone to bed. McCain's attempt at humor was flat. If I hear "my friend" one more time I think I'll puke. McCain came off as condesending in a way.
The format stunk in my opinion. Town hall envokes interaction, but there were too many rules.
As for Obama, I left wanting more. His answers were too impersonal although, Obama tried to engage McCain by actually looking at him during McCain's turn to speak.
Does anyone else out there think McCain has little or zero respect for Obama as a person? And what was with the camera crew filming every handshake the Obama's had with the audiance? Was it because the McCains already left the stage?
All in all, I probably won't watch the last debate as I have known since 2004 who I would vote for as President!

October 08, 2008 8:25 AM  
Blogger Dean Wormer said...

McCain could've gone Mr. Nice but instead he went for the Big Jerk and pulled power moves like that handshake thing at the end. Sorry John- you're not the alpha male when you're in the same room as Barack Obama.

October 08, 2008 8:40 AM  
Blogger Targa said...

It seems to me that any time a perfect stranger refers to perfect strangers as 'my friend', he neither wants to be your friend, nor would he ever have you as a friend.
The phrase, 'my friend' is a condescending and impersonal.
That's like meeting someone for the first time and saying, 'hey buddy', because you forgot that person's name.
So, what did I think of the debate? Fuck McCain and the horse he rode in on.

October 08, 2008 9:29 AM  
Blogger Sherry said...

the "that one" comment and dismissive gesture mccain made just pissed me off as much as it shocked me.

but, there are now t-shirts that have "yes, i'm voting for that one" with the obama web address on it. hooray!

October 08, 2008 9:38 AM  
Blogger Spartacus said...

Okay...Pop, I'll bite. Like you, I could not stay awake for the entire debate. But then again, I had to record it on the DVR because I to drive my son Zeb to his guitar lesson when it came on.

The Sen. McCain I saw resembled a petulant, fatuous blow hard who tried very hard to not only discredit Obama at every turn. He didn't say anything I didn't expect from him and I'm happy he didn't overtly refer to himself as a maverick.

But when he wasn't speaking and the camera angle was such that he could be seen in the background while Obama was, his stance and seething expression were obvious. And his patronizing tone was unmistakable, particularly in addressing the young black man in the audience. I swear at points, I thought that he would call Obama uppity.

Obama, to his credit did his best to remain dignified. I just wished that, immediately after the debate, Obama's campaign people would point out how childishness and anger in McCain's demeanor.

October 08, 2008 10:24 AM  
Blogger two crows said...

Not only did McCain attack Obama and act condescending toward him and refuse to shake his hand -- all terrific ways to win support, right? NOT!

this doddering old fool even attacked Brokaw, fergoshsakes!

all this managed to do was make McCain look beyond senile. people with Alzheimer's go beyond being senile to become hostile.
[I'm not attacking people who have Alzheimer's (which my mother died of) I'm simply stating a fact.]
xxx
btw, while I was typing this, Barbie declared McSame the winner.
**ahem** the viewers voted 88% to 12% in favor of Obama.

some call, Barbie.

October 08, 2008 3:14 PM  
Blogger Snave said...

What everyone else said!

Of course I am biased way to the left, but I think McCain was pathetic. His insensitive "that one" remark suggested he considers Obama rather like a subordinate. I thought it was like McCain was saying "I'm the boss here, I'm the one who knows everything, he's just one of my workers. He answers to me."

I may be way off the mark with this next thought, but I believe McCain's deflection of Obama's handshake to Cindy was sexist. I think it was McCain's way of saying "I won't acknowledge you. I'm a man. Here, go shake hands with a woman instead." I think it was demeaning to Obama to be shunned by McCain just on general principles... and maybe what I'm thinking was not intended or should not be read into this at all... but might this also be construed as further rude treatment of his wife (which has happened before several times, i.e. the C--- and Trollop remark, and telling the Sturgis bikers Cindy should be in their beauty contest...)

Why does Cindy McCain put up with this jerk?

Snopes.com says the following is still "undetermined", and it may not be much more than a nasty internet rumor, but take a look. I think it's worth a read, and given all I have seen from John McCain, I would not be a bit surprised if this was true:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/mccain/vacation.asp

October 08, 2008 3:56 PM  
Blogger Snave said...

I only made the previous remark about my perception of sexism because I grew up in a redneck environment (and still live in one) where I saw (and still see) women sometimes viewed and treated as less worthy or valuable than men. Lots of stuff was (and sometimes still is) said like "Don't do that, that's a woman's job", "Leave that for the women to do", and "Hey man, what are you, some kind of woman?" I found that crap appalling then, as I do now. I need to stop writing this paragraph soon, as my blood pressure is about through the roof. Heh... It's getting so the mere thought of John McAnus, Sarah McFailin' or Republicans in general defeats my blood pressure meds. I will be so glad when this crappy election is over. Every four years it just seems to get worse, more stressful. I just want the country to vote NOW. Can't we, please? 8-)

As for the rest of the debate, it was definitely a win for Obama. As in the VP debate, when all Palin needed to do was exceed the very low expectations of her, and all Biden had to do was rein himself in a little and stay on topic... all Obama needed to do here was keep McCain from gaining any advantages. He did just that, by being polite, being respectful, not getting angry, and being businesslike while also being personal. Obama was not great, but he was good enough to keep McCain from getting back into the race right away. Even if people tend to view it as a draw... the advantage STILL belongs to Barack Obama!

All McCain had to do in this debate was everything, and he did virtually none of it. He still has 28 days to make some inroads, but things are looking better and better and better for the Democrats!

Anything the left can do to keep McCain from getting back into the race? It should be done, within reason.

October 08, 2008 4:08 PM  
Blogger isabelita said...

McCain may be heading into Alzheimer's, but from his own book, sounds as if he was born angry and conditioned to keep being that way.
Wouldn't matter if her were dead and propped up, like eEagan. All the GOP wants is more time to complete the robbery.

October 08, 2008 4:48 PM  
Blogger two crows said...

well, THAT didn't take long!
google 'that one'. the first entry is a site where you can shop for t-shirts, sweat shirts, caps, buttons and bumper stickers with a number of logos featuring 'That One' themes.
I can just see the silk screen mills churning em out as fast as they can, right now!

talk about a backfire.
good one, McSame. thanks for giving the economy a shot in the arm.

'scuse me -- I'm going over to hunt for a cap or a magnet so I can brag to the world that 'I voted for That One!' :)

October 08, 2008 4:56 PM  

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