Just so you know
You will hear that an awful lot of voters turned out in Florida to vote in the primary. They did, but here’s the main reason they did. Florida had a proposition on the ballot to raise the Homestead Exemption taxes from $25,000 a year to $50,000 dollars a year. Even though it would be bad for the state financially, the homeowners turned out in droves to vote for it.
Many people like me, also cast a vote for a Democratic presidential nominee. We knew our votes would not count but some of us just wanted to vote.
Bottom line, the Republicans in Tallahassee set the Democrats in Tallahassee up with a Catch-22 sort of vote. The date of the primary was on a bill that also included getting rid of voting machines that did not have paper trails. What Democrat in Florida government wanted to go on record as being against that? Very few.
From the start Obama played by the rules here in Florida and he’s still playing by the rules. If my primary vote doesn’t count that’s okay as long as my vote in November does.
Many people like me, also cast a vote for a Democratic presidential nominee. We knew our votes would not count but some of us just wanted to vote.
Bottom line, the Republicans in Tallahassee set the Democrats in Tallahassee up with a Catch-22 sort of vote. The date of the primary was on a bill that also included getting rid of voting machines that did not have paper trails. What Democrat in Florida government wanted to go on record as being against that? Very few.
From the start Obama played by the rules here in Florida and he’s still playing by the rules. If my primary vote doesn’t count that’s okay as long as my vote in November does.
posted by pissed off patricia at 1:49 AM
21 Comments:
Well there's my answer! Thanks, PoP! I heard some talking head doing the yeah, but, yeah but the DEMOCRATS voted with the Republicans to move up the primary and break the rules in Florida.
At that point, I asked MathMan "What else was on that bill to change the election date?"
Thank you for giving me the answer.
Damn tax-and-spend Democrats, always screwing things up!
read maureen dowd's column in NYTimes today (4/2) for another side of obama.
I heard Obama on the news this morning, and the interviewer was commenting on republicans crossing over to vote for him in the primaries. Obama said it was only anecdotal for now.
I screamed at the TV: REPUBLICANS voting for Obama - that doesn't make ME very happy about him!
This is the trouble - we have the very same people who gave us Bush/Cheney now giving us Obama.
shit
Well, I guess your vote will count in November as long as McCain doesn't invoke the Supreme Court to make a decision in the event it is a very close race...
g'morning PoP--
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It still bothers me that Michigan votes don't count either because we certainly needed a voice in this election. I guess that is just the way it goes. Maybe I should look and see what else was on the ballot here in Michigan to get them to move the date up despite warnings from the Dems.
I'm glad to hear your Floridian perspective on this, PoP. What interests me about the Florida/Michigan fiasco is how each candidate conducts themselves. By their behavior we shall know them.
so to have one's vote more reliably counted in florida, one had to give up a vote in the primary. and clinton claims that was designed to hurt her chances.
Pop-
If you were disenfranchised then I've never been enfranchised since my state's primary is always in May and the candidate decided by then.
In fact due in some part to Florida and Michigan's screwup this is the first time as a voter I'll actually have a say as to the candidate of the presidential primary.
sb gypsy-
This is the trouble - we have the very same people who gave us Bush/Cheney now giving us Obama.
That is utter, complete and unadulterated nonsense.
what a mess, but thanks for some perspective.....
the republicans in tallahassee (thanks jeb and charlie) really screwed it up.
but if hillary was so against this, why did she sign the OK?
i dont know what i would do since i really think both florida and michigan shouldnt be disenfranchised, but the vote as is shouldnt stand either
My fears about Obama being a good speaker but an empty suit were kinda stoked a little this morning when I heard that Lee Hamilton, of the 9/11 Commission that did even less (though it hardly seems possible) than the Warren Commission, endorsed Obama.
But then again, I think everybody's pretty much endorsing Obama now.
DGUZMAN, "... Obama being a good speaker but an empty suit..." Man, have I got a video for you! Check out the video I put on mah blog today (Wednesday), and you'll see the power of Obama's speeches put into action - by some kids in the south Bronx.
POP, thanks for the info on Florida. As to Hillary, all of the candidates signed an oath to abide by the DNC's decision to penalize Florida and Michigan, as you know. I love how you put this in perspective - Obama plays by the rules.
That info does help a little. Who would choose to stay w/paperless machines if they had a choice? But, your Florida primaries were only moved up by ONE WEEK. What was the reason given for that move? What did one week accomplish, besides violating DNC rules & negating your primary?
I am sick of the underhanded Political games. If you want to see how important it is to keep the lying underhanded McCain out of office check out the story and links at polishifters
I am stupefied he can ever run and better get shredded during the campaign.
I'm glad at least one Floridian doesn't buy Hillary's BS. And after this no one should believe her NAFTA lies either
Peace.
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"if you were disenfranchised then I've never been enfranchised since my state's primary is always in May and the candidate decided by then."
ha ha - me too
Thanks for the perspective, Patricia. I wondered why the primaries had been moved up; now I know.
Another Repug production...
Obama played by the rules in FL??? Are you kidding me? He had national ads running when no other candidate did...AND he held press conferences during that time in FL, when the other Dem candidates didn't because it gave the impression it was advertising. Obama has never "played by the rules"! Look at all the garbage his campaign pulled at the TX caucuses and other caucuses? They actually have video of phone calls made by Obama supporters trying to tell the TX Clinton delegates that they were listed as Obama delegates and had no choice but to sign on with him at the delegate count. Really...Obama playing by the rules gave me a good laugh. :-)
Amen, sister.
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