Vote for a Republican? Why?
I can’t understand why Fred Thompson is still in the race. I watched him as he was interviewed on Meet the Press and he’s about as shallow as Rudy and Mitt combined. How the hell did he even get this far? Once you peel off the “actor” role, there’s nothing there.
I think Rudy is running because he just wants the prestige of the office. He and Mitt are clamoring over who would attack Iran hardest, use the most torture and place the most people at Guantanamo. In other words they want to be even more insane than the insane person we have in the oval office today.
Is the use of torture the new value for “values voters”? Forget fighting against gay marriage and abortions, now they would appear to be fighting for the use of torture. Go figure. I’d like to see them try to back this up with scripture from the Bible.
So bottom line, why would anyone vote for Thompson, Rudy or Mitt? Seems to me it would be like rubbing salt into the wound that is our country today.
I think Rudy is running because he just wants the prestige of the office. He and Mitt are clamoring over who would attack Iran hardest, use the most torture and place the most people at Guantanamo. In other words they want to be even more insane than the insane person we have in the oval office today.
Is the use of torture the new value for “values voters”? Forget fighting against gay marriage and abortions, now they would appear to be fighting for the use of torture. Go figure. I’d like to see them try to back this up with scripture from the Bible.
So bottom line, why would anyone vote for Thompson, Rudy or Mitt? Seems to me it would be like rubbing salt into the wound that is our country today.
posted by pissed off patricia at 1:51 AM
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You ask a provocative question PoP.
I think you have it- "torture" and "strenth" are the new key words.
One need not have a degree in psychology to know certain things. When people have such frail ego strength, no inner core, any self authority or self understanding and a complete lack of critical thinking skills they feel small and weak.
Then they want to strike out at all around them, so they can feel safe.
This being the America of 2007, people want "strong" leaders to protect them. So they can continue to drive their nice cars, live in their big ass homes, eat their fine food, and so forth.
Secure the borders! Secure democracy in the middle east! Use force! Show them who is the boss!
As a nation, we have abdicated our democratic core and said "just go deal with this big strong men!" Yes, the big strong men will make the bad guys go away. We'll show them!
Except for none of the above has happened.
So while it is incomprehensible to me that anyone would even remotely consider one of those idiots... people do.
As a NY-er I laughed and joked that Rudy would not go far. PoP - I am eating my own words and they do not taste particularly good. It defies any common sense or understanding.
So while many of us - and I do think there are many of us- want to actually live in a democracy and accept the weighty responsibility of such, many do not.
I must say that in my own journey, starting this blog in May or June, whenever I did it has galvanized me and helped me become clearer and stronger in my thoughts and actions. Maybe more people should have their own blog!
Anyway, I have really gone on too long here, but I think that the real issue is that we have gone so soft and lazy as a nation and that this gives unbridled opportunity and power to people who are too dangerous to have it.
Today is the day! Up or down vote on Cheney impeachment by Kucinich! Call or fax your representation now!
Symbolic, yes. Powerful symbolism- absolutely.
Support this motion today please no matter how you feel about Dennis.
Even if we don't agree about him, I am fairly certain we all agree about Cheney. And at least DK is putting himself out there to do something about it.
Thompson is running to impress his 5th child bride who lusts for fame and fortune, even if it means sleeping with a drooling old horse.
Makes you wonder about a large percentage of the population doesn't it. All of the values that made this country great seem to be falling by the side for the GOP types. No honor, morals or strength in the face of adversity. Just cower in the corner and hope for a "big daddy" to take care of them. What a shame.
Why would anyone vote for them? I have no clue. Rudy is colorful and interesting ("interesting" not necessarily a good thing), Thompson is an actor/celebrity, and Mitt? I give up.
I predict that my area is going to go big for Ron Paul. That includes a chunk of the Democrats, and it's a Blue district. In fact, Paul should do just as well in Red areas of Texas. He's a classic Libertarian running R, and I can't go there. I have plenty of Libertarian friends, but am not one myself.
There rally must be some brain dead people in this country.
Who would Jesus torture?
From what I've read, Republican men seem to support Thompson because his wife is "hot." That's a lamer reason to vote for someone than "he's someone I'd like to have a beer with." Yeah, we know now where voting for your drinking buddy gets us!
Larry sounds like my mother :-) He can't possibly be wrong.
Funny how a nation of rugged individualists - ha - has turned into a collection of wet-your-pants types. It'd be fucking hilarious if the people who milked these irrational fears didn't run everything.
It is getting weirder and scarier as the candidates jostle about and posture. I think a few of them would jump at the chance to waterboard a detainee himself to prove his determination to "do what it takes to keep america safe, free..."
makes me like this satire all the more:
http://tshirtinsurgency.com/node/12
Voting for today's Republicans......
Proof that our educational system is failing.
The Bush base are authoritarian followers, and deeply insecure about what's happening in the world. Because of their insecurity, they become agressively protective (defensive) of their choices, even tho they're bad choices.
That's my take on it. They can hold two conflicting ideas in their head, and refuse to even try to reconcile them. They don't want to make a real argument about issues, because then they would need to examine all the conflicting evidence. So, they indulge in character assassination and straw-dummy arguments.
Eventually, the confusion related to the repression of conflict results in increasing agression and ultimately senseless violence. The ends always trumps the means.
I was going to say what sbgypsy said only she said so much better than I ever could! People will vote for these weird "daddy" types because they are full of fear, just the way the republicans like their constituencies.
I'm so happy I'm in Canada and don't have to vote for any of them. However, since Harper is the US president's bitch (at least if the pres is republican) we get shafted too. C'mon people, vote the right way this time!!!
Hey POP
Just wanted to let you know I did reply to your comment but I lost all my info including e's so I am slowly getting back together. Anyway! an average patriot has left a new comment on the post "Climate is our greatest security risk as Bush stil...":
POP
I know , it stinks! War and his new order is all that matters. it just kills me that after he destroys us and the world he will only move to his safe house in Paraguay. It sickens me.
Thanks for getting to me. I have had major computer problems and lost everything including everyones E's. I'm getting back slowly!
And so it begins here in my small slice of the SE U.S. I've seen my first Thompson bumper sticker just this morning.
Yep, he sounds like us and he's not a trial lawyer, so dadgummit! Better vote for him.
what a lame brain he is.
which means lots of people will vote for him. it sure would be nice to have a smart president. maybe that's asking too much.
Because those who are left who would do so, are hard core rightwing base. They will just keep telling you that "We haven't been attacked by terrorists since 9/11, thus this lot is keeping us safe!" And then go on to tell you about how PLENTY of Dems are crooked, etc. Well, there are too many Dems who may as well be Repubs, but at least if one votes for Dems, there's more of a ghost of a chance we could get some change. Maybe.
Only the brain dead would vote for a republican at this juncture. I guess I'll be looking for a new country soon...
T&A - Boy I hope you're right and that there's not too many of them left that aren't already holding political office
I visited a professor friend of mine at ETSU last month, before Thompson "formally" declared his candidacy. They absolutely despise Al Gore, but love Fred Thompson. Go figure.
Grey headed old redneck women driving around in their 12 MPG SUVs/Trucks with "Please Run, Fred Thompson, America needs you" scribbled on their back windows with soap. Uneducated, authoritarian rubes who know nothing but what they pick up from TVLand and the absolute lowest common denominator. Oh, how I wish the south would simply secede and leave the important matters to the more enlightened adults.
I live near a very small pocket of more enlightened folks in metro Atlanta, but the vast majority of the south is utterly indoctrinated by the dogma of bigotry, hate, and xenophobia. Coupled with the worst schools in the country.
What nick (Mem Beth) said:
"Voting for today's Republicans......
Proof that our educational system is failing."
ROTFLMFAO!!!!
Why?
Because people are lazy, stupid, ignorant and want someone else to do the hard thinking for them.
Too many people invest their energy into television programs. They have to know what McDreamy is going to do, or if the Housewives are still desperate, or who the next D-List celebrity will win "Dancing with the Has-Beens".
This life of luxury has created a nation of numbnuts.
People vote Republican because they believe that Republicans are good Christians and Democrats are godless liberals.
They vote for Republicans because they believe that might-makes-right, and waving flags is patriotism.
They vote Republican because they are uneducated, bigoted, cowardly, and racist. Republicans appeal directly to them.
more at my blog...
Thompson? Totally vacuous. People fill in the vacuum with their own imagination, such as it is, and come up with someone they would vote for. The mirror image. Cheers.
It's blatantly clear that "presidential" Thompson's honey-moon is over and he has brought forth nothing new or even remotely innovative with his less than inspiring mumblings. Why is it then that there is a scary possibility that this nincompoop will be your next president? Answer: the Americans prefer myths over reality.
We all like to think that this is a new phenomena and fail to remember that just a few decades ago there were a lot of places in America where black dude didn't dare to use the same drinking fountain as white dude. This never seem to have bothered many of your recent ancestors whom were describing your society as a beacon of hope and decency.
The last "good" American war, the WW II, started with Negroes reduced to unloading ships and latrines for "they were not capable of doing the fighting". Then, when too many started to die, even they were reluctantly allowed to die for their country in separate units. The irony here is that the war took place to oust that racist pig Hitler and his awful henchmen. Too bad for those black servicemen, after the war they went back to Birmingham and Little Rock to make sure that they never drank from the same water fountain as the honkies.
This has been a long way around to explain why such a character as Thompson, despite offering nothing substantial, is a serious contender. He might be nothing to write home about but, BOY!, does he look presidential! This alone makes Thompson good enough to those who like their myths alive and, I must admit, in comparison to the present honcho, W, it ain't bad.
Gee, Dr. Know, I lived in the South around Knoxville, Tennessee, for 25 years and never experienced what you described. I thought the people were kind, good-humored, and full of common sense. Perhaps you found only what you were looking for.
Intellectual rigidity, and fear of the annihilation of the self.
If I admit I'm wrong about so and so, who've I've defended countless times, then I might have to actually look at myself, and there is no way in fucking hell I'm doing that so, Onward Christian Soldiers!
Perhaps the reason people might vote for those jerks is that it is becoming decreasingly difficult to tell the difference between them and Hillary.
Sorry, Knox Rover,
As my goal was the New England area, I didn't spend any time in Knoville, and the last time I did was in the early 80s. I suppose it is rather reactionary to paint an entire region with such a broad brush, but what I witnessed in JC was so similar to what I've seen daily in Cobb, GA for the last 7 years kinda made me knee-jerk. I live amongst the last vestiges of the hard-core 29 percenters. If Knoxville is truly different, please accept my apologies. There are always pockets of resistance to the mass-think of the NeoCon GOP. Aniston, Alabama comes to mind, even though the majority of the state and the government is dominated by Karl Rove and Company.
I'll stop by the next time I travel. Eastern SC is also on the list of places to visit, based upon recomendations by others I've met in Atlanta.
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