Pols and Polls
Last week and many times before, george bush said he pays no attention to polls. Other politicians have said the same or similar things. McCain said he makes his decisions based on principles, not polls. Do these people realize that polls reflect the voice of We the People?
posted by pissed off patricia at 1:15 AM
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You see, there's the rub. Because they are really working for us, they have shown, once in office, they know better and don't need us.
Which, if we don't vote for any of these people who have not backed and taken to heart the Constitution, then what????? ; (
Bush himself may not read the polls but all of his flunkies do and especially Rove. They use them to see how effectively they have been manipulating us.
If we had a democracy, they would look in the mirror and see us instead of themselves. At this point, we do not have a democracy. We have instead a wild herd of psychotic horses running in a burning barn - our government!
We the People don't have any lobbyists bribing them, so our voice doesn't matter.
Is it really that straightforward? Poll results can be manipulated by what questions you ask, how they are phrased, what choice of answers you offer, and even how the data is presented.
Even so, saying that they pay no attention to the polls is specious. What Bush means is that he pays no attention to the polls that show the majority of voters disagree with him. None of his cronies talked about ignoring the polls when the populist bandwagon was rolling into Iraq. Of course, neither did the loyal opposition.
By the way, I have to say to Peacechick Mary that I just love her icon!
That's why they claim they pay no attention to the polls, it reflects the thoughts and will of the very ones they despise.
The people.
Our "Leader Dearest" has commented many times that now he is MR Deciderer, what "You The People" want doesn't matter.
What if he decides to cancel the 2008 elections, for the good of the country, and to continue his perpetual "War on Terror", National Security, Homeland Safety, or whatever he can makeup to try and scare the weak-minded.
From what I've seen from this administration, I wouldn't be surprised if they try that.
Lets put the criminals away NOW.
I think they are very selective about when they read the polls. If they are saying what they want to hear OR if they've been manipulated to say what they want them to then they are good.
I am not sure that I agree with your assertion that polls necessarily reflect the voice of the people. A change of one or 2 words in a poll question can lead to radically different results.
That being said, politicians (usually those with slipping popularity) who stand up and say, "I don't read polls" somehow remind me of a kindergartner sticking her tongue out and yelling "Nah - Nah - Nah Nah - Nah". What a petulant bunch we've managed to put in office.
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It does make me wonder what it means when someone like Bush or McCain say they are not poll-driven. What is the subtext here?
I think today is the day I will start calling Nancy Pelosi's office and asking her to put Impeachment on the table. I plan to do this everyday.
It's "We The People" that he expressly does not want to hear from.
He just don't care what we want - he's the decider, and he's told you that before!
Hey,
He doesn't have to be a weather man to know which way the wind blows. Polls or not, he knows how the people feel about the war, about healthcare, about poverty, hunger, Katrina and more. He knows. He's yucky.
They're not even "practicing" Democracy.
McCain seems to look at the polls a little isn't he bringing his tour bus back up north!? or is that money driven! isn't it all anyway
minstrel doesn't publish who he plays with but if you drop him an email he will answer your question in relative privacy.
It's said that leaders who make decisions opposite that of the opinion of the people (public pols) have courage, of their convictions.
It's also true that some decisions that the people don't like, have been best for the whole country.
Yet, the leader who does not listen to the people, is nothing more than a dictator, and the people are usually correct more often than the politicians.
A good leader can not be a public pol follower, a people pleaser. nor a party hack.
The best we can expect, is that a leader makes their decisions based on facts and truth. That's not what's happening now, and rarely ever does. So the one thing that has been true throughout our History, is the people's dissatisfaction with their government and its leaders.
This man has no feelings about the average America and he could care less about what or how we feel. There is no bill that he has passed that represent or help the average American.
This guy can pack it up right now as for as I am concerned. It's sad to see that average Americans still follow this man. What could they be thinking, maybe they should read the polls or read exactly what this man has not done for them.
Until enough of the US population is suffering in some way, they won't get off their fat complacent asses to protest a single fucking thing.
This country is spoiled, in so many ways.
A politician that doesn't watch the polls like a hawk, isn't a politician for very long, I assure you!! It just makes a nice sound bite to say they do stuff on principle. B.S.!! If they did......this war would long since been over, Bush and Cheney would have been impeached.....
Do these people realize that polls reflect the voice of We the People?
they don't care
Wow...what an arrogant SOB saying he doesn't worry about the polls...man, I just keep trying to find some good in the man, but to no avail.
I'm with fallenmonk on this one.
I was going to say something about the uninformed opinion becoming as significant a factor in public policy as the well informed opinion. But after reading the comments above, I'll just offer one reminder: It was never the intent of this administration to serve the majority, and a certain minority is well pleased.
Everyone of these Cons is a Poll Smoker I can't believe they'd try to deny it.
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