Wednesday, April 16, 2008

Smells Like a Mouse

I probably should let Fred the Cat write this post with a title like that, but hey, let him get his own posts.

Something strikes me as a little strange about this presidential campaign. We all know that Senator Clinton said both she and Senator McCain had a lifetime of experience. Bill Clinton chimed in that both Senator Clinton and Senator McCain were patriots who loved their country.

Recently when Senator Clinton was caught fudging on her combat experience in Bosnia, I didn’t hear a word from Senator McCain or his campaign staff. They let her slide on that one and the bizarre follow-up by Bill Clinton days later wasn’t mentioned either.

Last weekend when the smoke began to be fanned about Senator Obama’s “bitter” story, both Senator Clinton and Senator McCain feigned their indignation about his remarks.

So why ism Senator McCain so easy on Senator Clinton and so quick to leap on Senator Obama? Why do the Clintons kiss up to Senator McCain? Why have they said things about Senator McCain that can easily be used in campaign ads against Senator Clinton if she wins the nomination? The Clintons have furnished material for at least three possible ads. One of her saying that McCain brings a lifetime of experience to the office. Another of Bill Clinton saying McCain is a patriot who loves his country. And finally Bill Clinton saying that his wife is sixty years old and sometimes forgets things when she’s tired late at night. I imagine we’ll be hearing a phone ringing in the background when McCain’s production staff sets that ad up.

What do we have here, some sort of tag team consisting of Senator Clinton and Senator McCain? Something smells funny. I think I smell a mouse. I’m not sure what it is, but something seems a bit strange.


Blogger ZILLA said...

Are you sure it's not a rat?

April 16, 2008 4:16 AM  
Blogger Sparky Duck said...

Everyone including my 2 cats knows republicans want to run against Hillary, because she is beatable and also because she will probably not hurt there side too much if she does win.

April 16, 2008 4:17 AM  
Blogger niCk (Mem Beth) said...

Politics and religion make about as much sense as fish on bicycles.

.....and that smells funny, also

April 16, 2008 4:23 AM  
Blogger Larry said...

The trouble with this entire mess is it is filled with slimy rodents that will not go away.

April 16, 2008 4:46 AM  
Blogger fairlane said...

This is exactly why I've decided to run for Emperor.

April 16, 2008 5:43 AM  
Blogger two crows said...

It COULD be a case of the Clintons running a terrible campaign -- especially since she didn't sweep the tables on super dooper Tues and hasn't known what to do ever since.

and, yeah, what sparky duck said.

April 16, 2008 6:10 AM  
Anonymous Joe the Troll said...

Sparky has it sussed up. There's only one Democrat still in this race.

April 16, 2008 6:19 AM  
Blogger dguzman said...

God, who knows? I want to believe in the system, and I want to believe in all the candidates. But then I remember what happened in 2000 and in 2004, and I think about how much it looked like the whole thing was just rigged. Kerry stepped aside, as though "someone" told him to be a good Skull & Bones man and do what he's told. It's like the whole thing is just run by somebody else, and it's all just a farce.

April 16, 2008 7:11 AM  
Blogger robin andrea said...

Yes, there's only one Democrat running at the moment. Good call on that.

April 16, 2008 7:22 AM  
Blogger roger said...

good call POP. is the elephant in the room racist?

April 16, 2008 7:29 AM  
Blogger Randal Graves said...

dguzman is right. The Illuminati and the Trilateral Commission are the puppeteers! I think I'm only half-joking. We're here to consume cheap crap so a few can make some loot while we're distracted by some shiny things.

It will be very telling to see just how much fight the Dems have down the stretch especially since stolen elections are property of Tin Foil Hat, Inc.

April 16, 2008 8:00 AM  
Blogger Dean Wormer said...

Recently when Senator Clinton was caught fudging on her combat experience in Bosnia, I didn’t hear a word from Senator McCain or his campaign staff. They let her slide on that one and the bizarre follow-up by Bill Clinton days later wasn’t mentioned either.

Someone else you didn't hear it from is one Barack Obama, although his surrogates hit it hard.

Contrast that with Clinton herself going after him with this latest "elite" crap.

April 16, 2008 8:11 AM  
Blogger asha said...

It's not a mouse you smell. It's a DemocRAT.

April 16, 2008 8:34 AM  
Blogger Mary Ellen said...

If I recall, is it not Obama and his campaign who started out saying that they didn't like the "old politics" of Washington? Since when is campaigning "smart" when you show disrespect for the service of another Senator, especially one who, like it or not, is a war hero? Do you think it's smart campaigning on the part of Obama to throw jabs at McCain about his age? How do you think that is going to play with the Reagan Democrats and the Independents who are Conservative? Do you honestly think that they will consider Obama showing disrespect for someone older and more experienced and especially a war hero the way to win their votes?

Hillary is the one doing the smart campaigning. If she is the nominee, she will be the one who can barb with McCain in a way that doesn't show disrespect or outright anger.

For a group of people who call themselves "progressives", it seems that you all want to fight a dirty campaign, Rove style. Is that the change that Obama has brought out in you?

April 16, 2008 9:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sure all you stalwert libs are bursting with pride today upon learning that Jimmy Carter....yes that Jimmy Carter,the guy that was drummed out of office in one of the largest landslide loses in history when the american people realized they had elected a nincompoop yesterday laid a wreath on the grave of Yasser Arafat.
I'm a bit surprized he's not stopping in Iran to vist the former american embassy where he allowed over 40 american citizen's to be held captive for 400 some days while he sat in the white house talking about the country being in a malaise.
What a complete failure that P.O.S. was and still is.It will be a happy day when he takes his last breath.

April 16, 2008 12:30 PM  
Blogger Dean Wormer said...

mary ellen-

Yes - Cheney's age is a legitimate issue. Obama doesn't have to bring it up but somebody on our side should. Anybody that would be offended wouldn't vote for a democrat anyway.

As for the rest of Cheney's "service" in the Senate - I'm completely at a loss as to why you think he shouldn't be criticized and soundly by Obama, Clinton or anyone else. The man is a stunning embarrasment, a corrupt asshole and - most of all - a conservative of the neocon variety. Like George W. Bush he has no business being anywhere near the White House.

With regards to his service in the military which I think most of us honor- it really has no bearing on the race for the White House. None. Zero. Zip. Zilch. This was demonstrated in the last election where many voters chose a deserter over a legitimate war hero who had killed and actually been wounded in the service of his country.

Clinton's coddling to McCain is one of the reasons she lost this race.

April 16, 2008 12:46 PM  
Blogger Weaseldog said...

Anonymous, don't forget that Ronald Reagan cut a deal with the Ayatollah to keep the hostages until he became President.

In exchange, he traded massive shipments of drugs for weapons, that he gave to Iran.

Iran needed weapons in their fights against Reagan's ally, Saddam Hussein.

Republicans sure love supply their enemies.

Look at Bush now, delivering monstrous quantities of cash and weapons to militant groups that then use them to kill Americans with.

Republicans understand that in war time, if you don't supply your enemy, then you might win and the war will be over. And peacetime is bad for business if you're into oil and weapons.

The slaughter of Americans makes bush and friends very profitable.

And I bet Bush really smiles when his oil revenue checks come in. His efforts to drive oil prices from $28/barrel to well over $100/barrel are paying off.

When the US bombs Iran, oil should pass $300/barrel, with gasoline in the US passing $10/gal.

This will make every Republican very happy when they fill up, because Bush and friends are profiting from the high prices.

April 16, 2008 1:17 PM  
Blogger Dr. Know said...

Bill Clinton and Bush, Sr. are political buds, and have been since the NAFTA days. It's all a dog and pony show. Or is that more correctly a rat and banker show...

April 16, 2008 1:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Weasel,another typical lib who wants to rewrite history by blaming ole Jimmy's complete failure on Reagan.
My goodness,if Reagan had in fact done all the things you accuse him of why on earth was'nt he impeached or at least tried on these charges.
Weasel,you may want to give some thought to upping your medication dossage or get back on're approaching delusional.

April 16, 2008 3:15 PM  
Blogger Dr. Know said...

Delusional? Pot.. Meet Kettle.
Better than an annoying troll.

April 17, 2008 1:37 AM  
Blogger Sherry said...

if we had listened to carter's warning about energy back then just think how life would be different today.

he was honest and had the country's best interests at heart.

so what happened? the republicans cut their swiftboating teeth on bringing him down. no one called them on it and they went on to deify st. reagan and make greed and corruption sacraments.

April 17, 2008 7:36 AM  
Blogger Sherry said...

oh, and just because someone was a hero in war(or any other area, police, fire, brain surgeon...)doesn't mean they walk on water and are infallible.

April 17, 2008 7:37 AM  
Blogger Mary Ellen said...

Dean Wormer- I'm confused by your comment, why do you keep talking about Cheney? Isn't this about McCain?

I'll tell you where McCain's service in the military counts with the conservatives and the Independents and if the Democrats want to win, they need to sway them to vote for a Democrat. You aren't thinking beyond the box! You can't dismiss is service because when you do, you dismiss the voters who feel this is important. This is why Democrats lose, they only play to their most liberal base. This is what is hurting Obama, he is dismissive of many in middle America and the rural communities.

Age may be a legitimate issue, and I agree, but tell that to senior citizens who look at him as a guy who understands their needs. If Obama comes off as a smart-alec upstart, they won't trust them. Seniors vote...more than college kids do. Hillary does well with seniors because she talks to their issues. Obama doesn't, and he doesn't even try. Obama may do well in a primary, but he won't do well with prime time general election until he realizes how to campaign with the big boys. He has a lot of growing up to do.

He looked terrible in the debate last night because he doesn't do well off script. You can run a country with a script, you have to think fast on your feet and he can't. Which is why he looked like a school kid who studied for the wrong test. Hillary was prepared for anything and did aced the test.

April 17, 2008 9:11 AM  
Blogger Mary Ellen said...

Dean- Oh, and speaking of Cheney. Obama voted for his energy package that gave all the money and power to big oil. Hillary didn't. I guess Obama must think Cheney is an alright guy and he can trust him. Just like he trusted Rezko, Auchi, Ayers, and Wright. There's that superior judgment at work, eh?

April 17, 2008 9:13 AM  
Blogger Dr. Know said...

Well mary ellen, it seems that military service may not as important as you imply - they chose AWOL GWB over Purple Heart Kerry. Go figure...

April 17, 2008 9:30 AM  
Blogger Dr. Zaius said...

Unable to win, Hillary Clinton wants to take the party down with her.

April 17, 2008 10:01 AM  
Blogger Dr. Know said...

As a reluctant Georgian, allow me to remind viewers of Zig Zag Zell Miller (DINO). It's not about the party, it's all about the money. The Machine is shocked and appalled that an upstart is ruining their plans of fiscal domination here in Ape Land. If we could only challange them to a duel...

April 17, 2008 11:14 AM  
Blogger Dean Wormer said...


Yup. I meant McCain. Arguing politics at work, and all. ;)

I'll tell you where McCain's service in the military counts with the conservatives and the Independents and if the Democrats want to win, they need to sway them to vote for a Democrat.

No. It really doesn't. They say it counts but only if it's the service of a republican politician. As dr. know points out they spiked a Medal of Honor winner who'd been wounded in the line of duty over a deserter.

He looked terrible in the debate last night because he doesn't do well off script.

He looked bad in the debate last night because the point of the debate last night was apparently to make him look bad.

Unfortunately most of us tuned in to see a debate on actual issues. Go figure.

Dean- Oh, and speaking of Cheney. Obama voted for his energy package that gave all the money and power to big oil. Hillary didn't.

And Clinton voted for the Bankruptcy bill that screwed the middle class and the AUMF that screwed us all. Nyah!

I think you're missing the point where none of us here who support Obama think Obama's a saint by any stretch of the imagination. We just think he's a better candidate and would make a better President than Clinton. I know that drives you crazy but that's the reality.

Finally- I follow politics very closely, have worked actively in gubernatorial, congressional and presidential campaigns (including Bill's) since I was old enough to vote. I have done everything from phone-banking to going door to door to helping preparations for candidate speeches to delivering lawn signs.

This. Shit. Matters. To. Me.

Like yourself- I am an adult and have made my decision as to who I will support based on the issues that are important to me.

The point is - I wouldn't dare to lecture you on your chosen candidate and where they stand. I would ask you politely to show me the same courtesy.

April 17, 2008 11:45 AM  
Blogger T&A said...

It's a Republican Rat you smell... Hillary is reverting back to her political leanings of her youth.

April 18, 2008 9:07 PM  

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