Admission, weakness or strength?
Which is worse, admitting to making a major and obvious mistake or refusing to admit making a major and obvious mistake?
Senator Clinton seems to feel it would be a sign of weakness if she admitted that she made a major mistake by voting to give the president the power to go to war. However, we all know that she made the mistake whether she will admit it or not.
I feel that if anyone makes a very glaring and obvious mistake, to refuse to admit it is simply making another glaring and obvious mistake. We have a president now who can never face his own mistakes or admit them, why does Senator Clinton feel we need another one?
I believe that when a person admits a mistake it shows strength and self confidence. It also shows they are willing not only to admit the mistake but hopefully to learn from their mistake as well. Most times, admiration will be the result when one admits that they too, are only human.
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As a postscript, Senator Clinton’s actions on this matter will neither make or break a vote for her from me. This is simply my attitude about people who are unwilling to admit it when it is obvious they have made a mistake.
Senator Clinton seems to feel it would be a sign of weakness if she admitted that she made a major mistake by voting to give the president the power to go to war. However, we all know that she made the mistake whether she will admit it or not.
I feel that if anyone makes a very glaring and obvious mistake, to refuse to admit it is simply making another glaring and obvious mistake. We have a president now who can never face his own mistakes or admit them, why does Senator Clinton feel we need another one?
I believe that when a person admits a mistake it shows strength and self confidence. It also shows they are willing not only to admit the mistake but hopefully to learn from their mistake as well. Most times, admiration will be the result when one admits that they too, are only human.
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As a postscript, Senator Clinton’s actions on this matter will neither make or break a vote for her from me. This is simply my attitude about people who are unwilling to admit it when it is obvious they have made a mistake.
posted by pissed off patricia at 3:13 AM
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She is starting to remind me of our beloved Chimperor, only without the physical resembence to a monkey.
It is somewhat discouraging - seeing her follow so closely in GWB's footsteps. She made a mistake - does she REALLY want us to believe she can't make one? She's not "God" - and if she thinks pretending not to ever err makes folks believe she is, then she, like Bush, is ill suited to being president.
"A man should never be ashamed to own he has been in the wrong, which is but saying... that he is wiser today than he was yesterday.Alexander Pope"
I'm with you, why is it so hard to admit a mistake, learn and move on???
Actually, it is kind of a dealbreaker for me. I'm bothered by both her refusal to admit a flawed choice as well as her making that choice originally as a way to increase her appeal to the right wing elements.
Well she certainly aims to blame the faulty information for her ill-informed choice. Her assertion is that she made decisions based on bad information and the fault there lies with the President and co.
But the thing is, as a Senator she had access to alot of information, and few really moved to buy some more time to consider what was available. Few tried to slow the warhawks, to really get a sense of the truth.
SO its like this to me: she either cant admit her own role in her mistakes OR she cant admit that she had poor judgement in her evaluation of available information.
Either is a deal breaker for me.
PS glad you got some rain, PoP.
I'm with JM. It is a deal breaker for me as well. I think it shines a light on somethings about the way she thinks and makes decisions that I don't like.
It's like driving along with someone who has obviously taken a wrong turn and refuses to admit it or correct the error. You just get deeper and deeper into the wrong direction. Maddening. This time I am voting my conscience and not my party. Hillary is definitely not in alignment with my conscience. No vote for Hillary or anyone else who follows Bush and his cabal.
she's not my candidate...and that breaks my heart. but this time around, we need a whole lot more than just a specific gender, or race.
we need a real, thinking leader. unfortunately, the honest leader-types don't stand a chance.
it's dennis kucinich for me, thus far. even if he isn't rich enough to buy the presidency.
so frustrating- and so,so sad.
We (collectively da litt’l guy) expect omniscience from medical doctors, CEOs and political elites. This fixation is as wrong as it is persistent.
And I’m sure it is one of the reasons I find it so difficult to believe that no one in government predicted (or maybe that should be predicted loudly) the debacle that Iraq would become (I mean there is a think-tank on every corner between Washington and Boston loaded with Ivy League big shots.)
I guess the mood following 9/11 was such that no elected official dared to ask objective questions. Cheney was talking about the smoking gun being a mushroom cloud and Rove was saying the Democrats wanted to provide psychological counseling to the terrorists. If you recall polling responses at the time, a vote against authorizing the war would have been political suicide in some states—particularly if one had ambition to become Commander-in-Chief in a future incarnation. Hillary’s vote may have been wrong, but it probably was no mistake.
On the other hand, she, not unlike GWB, doesn’t suffer from lack of self esteem.
My big concern about Hillary is that as the Democrat’s nominee, she will energize the Republican base like nobody else.
It would break my heart to have to cast a vote for Hillary Clinton. I'm so sick of politics as usual. I want a voice that is simply going to tell the truth, a candidate who is not completely bought and sold, and a thinker who is both bold and philosophical. Hillary is too safe, too predictable, too poll-driven, too methodical, plodding, and visionless. Even if she admits her mistake, it's already too late.
Not being willing to admit a mistake, shows a character flaw. It alone would not be a non-vote for me, but I have other issues with Ms. Clinton.
I don't agree with all the anger against the Democrats who voted for the war. After all they were lied to and led to believe that there was a serious danger to America.
In the end, of course it was a mistake, but many thought they were acting in the best interest of Americans. The anger should be put on GWB, where it belongs.
This thing that continues to bug me is that all of these folks said they made a mistake yet no one seems terrible interested in correcting it.
There are a couple things here. On this issue, I have personally gone both routes: admission and denial. The matter always compounds the problem.
Beyond just the issue of admission, Hillary lied during the debate. She said that she had been well briefed by aides on the NIE that she had not read. The version of the NIE under discussion at the time was the most secret version. She could checked-in at a secure location to read it. It was available to Senators only, not their aides. Sh her aides could not have briefed her as she claimed.
The Sunday NYT Magazine has a great article on Hillary and her war votes.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/29/magazine/03Hillary-t.html
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PoP,
I agree with you about 100% Admit the mistake, stake out new ground and move on.
BTW - had a large time in the RR (Redneck Riviera for those of you unfamiliar with the abbreviation) last week - only I just saw the Gulf when I flew in and out, so once again, the best parts of life are being wasted on the youth. I did get good fish at Big City Fish and excellent BBQ at Smitty's (trust me on this - spring for the extra $.50 for the pulled pork), both of which I recommend to your cadre of admirers if they ever find themselves in Panama City and humgry.
BTW - as in the fall, Little Pogo's soccer team (Same kid, different team) won their division in the WV Open tournament - the summer tournament for any teams that want to enter and won the sportsmanship award as well - a tough twofer. And they were the only team in their bracket without a paid coach. Proud Dad here.
Having any shred of integrity would mean that you admit and then work to fix your mistakes. First one to stand up and do it wins in my book.
Between the Pack of Hyenas and the Barrel of Monkeys, I'd be sorely tempted to vote for Gus Hall (and he's dead).
I think Clinton's worried that if she admits an error on Iraq, her adversaries will pounce on her for being weak.
Walt
(The Wanderer)
I agree. It should not be looked at as political suicide to admit that one made a mistake. Those who view it that way whether they are politicians or members of the public, aren't looking for a human to be in power.
Humans make mistakes and we should be accepting of those who have the balls to admit to them.
Integrity....how many of the candidates live by that yardstick?? It seems that this country wants drama, wants a story, more than anything else.
The First Boy can't admit that he made grave mistakes. He can't admit that he doesn't have a pair.
Yes, that is one thing that will make you lose my vote if you can't admit to your mistakes.
I'm with you there.
I don't wish to come across as a total jerk, but when we judge Hillary, it's good to remember that she is the end product of a careful planning by an huge army/machinery of her handlers, historians, spinners and political scientists. This naturally makes her just about as non genuine as one can get in the pursuit of the main price. When we add to this the fact that she is preaching to one of the strangest congregations in in the world, the American voters, it is not that surprising that lady cannot afford to be wrong or show even an hint of second guessing. Remember, she is a Democrat and a woman, which makes her "suspect" of not being tough and unflappable enough for most of you to become a president. Personally, I hope she never makes it though!
Scott voiced my sentiment. "My big concern about Hillary is that as the Democrat’s nominee, she will energize the Republican base like nobody else."
We here in the "belly of the GOP base" understand that Hillary Can Not Win. (None of these jokers can tell you why it is they hate Hillary........they just do. Rush and Neal and Hannity have turned Hillary into a witch to these people.......]
Also it is troubling to me that Hillary seems inclined pander to these people sometimes and there ain't no way she will ever win over any of them.
I will continue to bang this theory and opinion home until election day. I will only vote for Hillary when I have to
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