Wednesday, November 29, 2006

Religious Hypocrisy or Religious Bullshit? It’s Both!

Even if you don’t believe in God or Jesus or any of the rest of it, you probably know a little something about the reputation of the Jesus character. I do, because I was sent to church and Sunday School as a little kid.

I learned that Jesus was a kind gentle person. I learned he cared for the poor and downtrodden. I learned that he taught people and did not judge people.

Okay, fast forward now to the compassionate conservatives. They are neither. Now let’s focus on the Christian Coalition. They may be a coalition, but they sure as hell don’t fit any definition of Christian that I’ve ever heard of.

If you are going to employ the name of Christ into your club’s name, shouldn’t you at least show some traits of that person in your actions?

Now we learn that the Christian Coalition doesn’t want to show any concern for the environment or the poor because it might be viewed as taking too liberal a stance. Damn, are they saying that Christ is too liberal for them? No wonder their only view of life seems to come from only the eye for an eye, Old Testament. The New Testament has too much of a liberal Christ-like liberal leaning for them.

The Christian Coalition is more concerned about remaining conservative than they are about the earth they say their God created or their fellow man who they believe was created by God in his own image. I call religious bullshit on all of them.

( If you aren’t familiar with what I’m talking about you can read about it here )


Blogger Frederick said...

The President-elect's resignation as head of the Christian coalition is the death knell of that organization, and the right-wing's monopoly on power among religious circles. It is also a rebirth of a more traditional (for America) Christian approach (think civil rights, women's suffrage, slavery, and the role Christianity and Liberalism played together in dealing with those social issues) Altogether a good thing.

November 29, 2006 3:56 AM  
Blogger Peacechick Mary said...

When I saw this, I thought the same. Surely, these people don't really have anything to do with that man Jesus who actaully touched lepers. It's good that this news is published as more and more people are finally understanding that the Christian Clubs are just that - big bloody clubs to beat up people.

November 29, 2006 4:05 AM  
Blogger Katharine said...

Yeah, PoP, you're right. This kind of thing is one of the reasons I've stopped attending the local Presbyterian church. A group from the Presbyterian Church USA, the denominational organization, was discussing condemning the U.S. military's torturing of Iraqi prisoners. I brought up the issue to my church's mission committee as something our church might want to take a stand on. I was told no, it was too political an issue. WTF?! Saying no to torture is too political for Christians?!

November 29, 2006 4:22 AM  
Blogger Time said...

Used to be that when a person claimed to talk to God, or for God, the guys in the white coats would come and take them away.

Now it seems people will believe anything if the claim comes from anyone supposedly religious.

How can anyone give money to or continue to follow people that have been found to be so immoral?

God forbid that a religious leader would want to include issues like the enviroment, or poverty in his talking points. Get rid of that activist!

We'll protect adultry, child molesters, bigots, thieves, even our loonies, but speak for the poor, the Earth, no way.

I've never understood why the American people follow these hypocrites.

November 29, 2006 5:46 AM  
Blogger Pogo said...

Blogger's being very bloggery this morning, and I hope this posts this time.

PoP, I'm shocked, utterly shocked that you are suggesting that the right wing religious zealots (RWRZ, aka "Christian Coalition, read, "republican base") are hypocritical. Having grown up in the Bible belt, I can say that most of the members of the RWRZ don't know the meaning of the word hypocritical (and would think the rapture had come if forced to spell it or die, since so many would die halfway through their attempt to spell the word). BTW, good morning.

November 29, 2006 5:59 AM  
Blogger Gracie said...

I've always been turned off by the religious rights, (which are neither) claim to own God exclusively. They have used the name as a shield to gain power and manipulate, the very thing Jesus would have opposed. They're all control freaks in a sick way.

Excellent article, thanks for sharing. Hope all is well.

November 29, 2006 6:04 AM  
Blogger Jamie said...

They obviously haven't read the Old Testament either. They can be written off as one more right wing nut group with no relation to anything having to do with God.

Noble Woman

November 29, 2006 6:07 AM  
Blogger fallenmonk said...

A telling thing in the article was the statement that many of the Talibangelicals were afraid of being labeled 'liberal' if they spoke out for the environment and other 'liberal' issues. This is part of the legacy of Newt Gingrich and his minions in turning the word liberal into a label are afraid to wear.
This is changing as evidenced by Dr.Hunter not caving.

November 29, 2006 6:13 AM  
Blogger Coffee Messiah said...


They simply need to be called on this everytime, yet, their empty follow-through on their beliefs blind their followers. Go figure. ; (

Onward Christian Sheeple ; (

November 29, 2006 6:34 AM  
Blogger Pogo said...

If you didn't see Colbert last night on the Pope, you gotta find it (maybe on CC's website or Youtube). Also, 'cuz folks here seem to like satirical stuff, click on the link below. I'm offering a money back guarantee that you'll come within a gnat's ass of spitting your coffee on your keyboard.

Bush rejects times tables
Oh, and I'd bookmark that site (actually, I have, and visit it often) - it is terrific.

November 29, 2006 6:49 AM  
Blogger Rainbow Demon said...

Right On, POP...

Did you happen to see how many people were associated with that particular "Megachurch"? It's very scary indeed...

It's very tempting to write an essay on:
"Mass Psychosis and Misnomers"

November 29, 2006 6:50 AM  
Blogger DivaJood said...

When Jesus was alive, the Romans attacked him as a liberal and agitator. Nothing much has changed. We have Nero in office, and a highly fearful conservative coalition who brow beat people into a life of hate and fear of anything that is "different" from them. Rainbowdemon is right, that would be a terrific topic.

And Pogo, you owe me a new keyboard.

November 29, 2006 7:25 AM  
Blogger colorado bob said...

Sunset on Mt. Etna

November 29, 2006 7:43 AM  
Blogger Blueberry said...

They should stop calling themselves the Christian Coalition and rename themselves "The coalition only for sex that produces babies (all other issues unimportant)"

November 29, 2006 7:56 AM  
Blogger Undeniable Liberal said...

In addition, Blueberry, the sex should be in the missionary position, only, with the lights off.....and pull your nightie down when it's done.

November 29, 2006 8:30 AM  
Blogger Octavian said...

I'm not a big fan of religion. It doesn't surprise me that all they care about is what other people do. Religion is one of the places where people who think everyone ought to behave like them turn.

It's called double-think. It works quite nicely in fundamentalism.

November 29, 2006 8:53 AM  
Blogger Sewmouse said...

I propose the new name be "The Bigot Brigade"

There's already a theme song available:

"Here's the story
Of a Whacky Preacher
Who was running to be US President..."

November 29, 2006 8:57 AM  
Blogger The Minstrel Boy said...

here's the deal though. we can't make the devil's bargain with or against a religious group becoming politically active. we can't have a stance of "it's ok to speak and organize if we agree with you." when the catholics were speaking out against the war, when they were organizing the farm workers and doing stuff like that we were all ok with them being active. now that there is an opposing but "christian" view they have the same rights to speech and association that we all should have. if they are talking more effectively in the arena we need to look to our laurels and get busy. i was playing with the great singer, political activist (and dear friend) holly near once and while introducing a song she used the term (which i loathe) "politically correct". i blurted "darlin' if you're political at all, that's correct in my book." she glared at me, but we're still buds.

November 29, 2006 10:42 AM  
Blogger Pogo said...

divajood, If you laughed, I warned you. (If you didn't, check my guarantee - it's a money back guarantee and I haven't received any from you) If you send me some, I'll happily refund it.

November 29, 2006 11:17 AM  
Anonymous JollyRoger said...

I had something to say aboutn this awhile back (surprise surprise.)

Those people are not Christians, they are Jesusistanis, and there is most certainly a difference. A BIG difference.

November 29, 2006 11:33 AM  
Blogger BBC said...

A lot of what you were taught in church was not true, made up. Yes, he did care for the poor and downtrodden, but he was also very judgmental and a social outcast except for the little band of followers he collected. His ‘ministry’ was only for three years, but some things they didn’t teach you was that he and his merry group drank and partied a lot, and he sexed Mary a lot. There are all kinds of things they didn’t tell you while trying to glorify him.

He didn’t heal others or perform any of the miracles they speak of, he just preached is about it. And it wasn’t his followers that went on to make him famous and write the bible, it was the people that killed him. The Christian Coalition doesn’t want to show any concern for the environment because they don’t care if it goes to hell, they just want to keep their greedy ways and figure that their God will fix what they fuck up, and forgive them to boot.

In some ways Jesus was a liberal, and as much as a union leader. But never mind then, this is now, what is the spirit saying now? For one thing, it’s telling me that we are God in evolution and we need to take responsibility for it. Humankind collectively that is. I think the responsible thing for someone to do for starters is to drop a bomb on our Christian leader. I’m pretty sure that is what Jesus would do.

November 29, 2006 12:32 PM  
Blogger azgoddess said...

hell yes!!! can i get an AMEN!!! you tell um sister!!!

hiprocrates they all are!

i say jeasus would tunr over in his grave if he could see how they are using his name in vain

November 29, 2006 1:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They are hate-filled charlatans. It's all about pass the offering plate and deride the poor and needy. Bastards.

November 29, 2006 4:28 PM  
Blogger Pam said...

I just borrowed from you an blogged about this too. To much to say for this small comment box!!

November 29, 2006 4:53 PM  
Blogger msliberty said...

Thank you for this post. Obviously, there are many of us who absolutely agree that the CC has nothing to do with Christ. Even those folks who don't believe Jesus was the son of God, generally hold that he was a GOOD man who did NICE things like feed hungry people and administer free health care to those without an insurance plan. There is nothing Christ-like in anything that the CC does.

November 29, 2006 5:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The President-elect's resignation as head of the Christian coalition is the death knell of that organization,

Isn't this the second official to resign this year over similar issues?

November 29, 2006 5:49 PM  
Blogger Yoga Korunta said...

It would seem that Christ is the new hate.

Will you please email?

November 29, 2006 6:45 PM  
Blogger Daphne Wayne-Bough said...

Sir Stephen Hawking, interviewed on the BBC this morning, said that in his opinion "What people call God is the embodiment of the forces of nature" ... which means greenliness is next to godliness, and we are actually standing on our deity. Don't look up - look down!

November 30, 2006 1:57 PM  
Blogger Gary said...

Yeah, if Jesus did exist and if he really could drop by for a visit - he'd be in trouble. Likely end up in Guanatanamo for his lack of papers, revolutionary language and dark complexion. He certainly would have some major ass to kick in the White House if he was still into his clean-out-the-temple mood.

November 30, 2006 3:46 PM  
Blogger JBlue said...

Too late! I called religious bullshit on them a long time ago. But, hey, I'm not stingy. Call away.

I've tried to ask some very Conservative relatives about that whole Jesus thing, and they SO don't get it. For people who are always quoting the Bible, you'd think they'd be a bit more familiar with the contents....

November 30, 2006 4:22 PM  
Blogger Jim said...

Well said P.O.P.!!!

November 30, 2006 5:08 PM  

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