Tuesday, June 13, 2006

Commit a crime, Take a class

Remember, I think it was back in November of last year, when Harriet Miers was to conduct ethics classes for the white house staff concerning handling of classified information? To the best of my recollection this happened after Scooter Libby was indicted.

After the incident in Haditha the entire military in Iraq was to receive a refresher class on how to handle themselves in the time of war. I would suppose these also could be called ethics lessons.

Yesterday Mr. Pop received a letter from the VA telling him in all likelihood his personal information was on the disc of the recently stolen computer. The letter also stated that the employees of the VA would be receiving classes.
“The Department of Veterans Affairs has directed all VA employees complete the ‘VA Cyber Security Awareness Training Course’ by June 30, 2006….”

This administration seems to think the most fitting response to grave errors and crimes is to administer a class giving instructions as to how to not do it again.


Blogger spadoman said...

Funny how quickly after the fact the zillion letters were all delivered to Veterans. Hmmmmmmm.

June 13, 2006 4:41 AM  
Blogger Walt said...

The name of the class is "Closing the Barn Door 101."

June 13, 2006 4:53 AM  
Blogger The Pagan Temple said...

Well, really though, it's not a bad idea, is it? It was assummed the soldiers involved in the Haditha incident would not engage in this kind of atrocity, but look what happenned, I guess they are just wanting to make sure nobody else goes off the deep end. Most of these soldiers are not much more than kids, how mature can they possibly be?

June 13, 2006 5:04 AM  
Blogger PTCruiser said...

I received that letter in the mail, too. I wonder if they have any classes that will teach me how to act when my government stops being a democracy and becomes a fascist dictatorship. Oops, my mistake. I forgot about Fox News.

June 13, 2006 5:17 AM  
Blogger JM said...

Seems to follow the pattern of talking a good game, but failing to take any meaningful actions. Much easier to execute than actually doing the right thing

June 13, 2006 5:19 AM  
Blogger betmo said...

ok- so mr. pop takes the class? so what? how does that help him when it wasn't his fault that his info was stolen from a supposedly secure system? ridiculous.

June 13, 2006 7:05 AM  
Blogger Jamie said...

Tieing yesterday and today together, a reporter recently used a counterfeit matricula consular ID with the wrong birthdate on it to gain admittance to an NSA office even though the NSA had his real information on file. When it was brought to NSA attention, the response was, "We are taking steps to make sure this does not happen again.

Your government at work.

June 13, 2006 7:08 AM  
Blogger Callooh said...

call me daft
(not being from this country)

but letters? classes? really?!
and so quickly....

perhaps I'm not as cynical/knowledgeable/clever as I thought I was. sheesh.

June 13, 2006 7:28 AM  
Blogger TheCultureGhost said...

Forget "No Child Left Behind" now we have "No Idiot Left Unattended."

June 13, 2006 8:11 AM  
Blogger Sothis said...

It is all PR BS. The guy who took all that info home knew it was against the rules to do it. The troops who committed the atrocities at Haditha were trained in boot camp not to kill innocent civilian, but they lost it under stress and did it anyway.

Punishing these people is the answer--not another class that they have already had.

June 13, 2006 8:22 AM  
Anonymous abi said...

I used to work for Computer Associates. A few years ago, some executives there were doing some funny bookkeeping, something like Enron. The joke was that these CA execs invented the 5-week month to make revenues look bettter than they actually were.

After they were caught, the company kept them out of jail and avoided some other punishments by making all the employees take ethics classes -- all 15,000 of us -- as though we were the damn crooks.

June 13, 2006 8:33 AM  
Blogger Left of Center said...

Hehe, I got the letter too. I have better security n my kids computer than The VA does.

June 13, 2006 8:50 AM  
Anonymous ds said...

How do we get them to schedule a "Democracy 101: Eliminating Election Tampering & Fraud" class?

June 13, 2006 9:07 AM  
Blogger glenda said...

That's a victim-blaming tactic if i ever heard one. The guy who gets his information ripped off through administration's lax security gets to take the course. HA!

June 13, 2006 10:37 AM  
Blogger pissed off patricia said...

Only people who work for the VA have to take the course, not all the veterans.

June 13, 2006 10:45 AM  
Anonymous ds said...

Patricia, are they making arrangements with the credit bureaus to provide free bureau reports on a regular basis for the next few years and / or provide identity theft insurance and assistance?

June 13, 2006 11:37 AM  
Anonymous horsedooty said...

Senor Horsedooty got out of the USAF in 1970. I do get my health care via the VA. I wonder if I am on that hard drive that got stolen.

yo soy Horsedooty!

June 13, 2006 12:02 PM  
Blogger SB Gypsy said...

"Closing the Barn Door 101."

* ha ha ha ha * ;)

June 13, 2006 12:38 PM  
Anonymous robotbuddha said...

I got stupid the stupid letter too...

Am I supposed to write back?

"Thanks, VA, for your prompt and polite warning about something one of your idiot employees did"

June 13, 2006 12:53 PM  
Anonymous robotbuddha said...

Just one "stupid" in the first sentence, if you please.

June 13, 2006 12:54 PM  
Blogger Bill said...

Don't forget that Jesus forgives. Getting a lesson after the sin is a fringe benefit. Does Mz H give tests after her lessonns? Is there a requirement to pass?

Question: If Hitler made a good clean confession, was truly sorry for his sins does that mean he is in heaven? We can be sure he was sorry.

Isn't this the same bunch that said Jesus forgives Clinton but they don't?

Are lies that cause people to believe, have faith really moral? Morality must be relative.

June 13, 2006 1:22 PM  
Blogger enigma4ever said...

Many great comments...I have nothing to say that is positive,wise or enlightening...I want my country back....

June 13, 2006 1:56 PM  
Blogger Time said...

As if you can teach an individual moral right from wrong in a classroom. Espically when the teachers are part of the attitude that led to the neglect in the first place.

June 13, 2006 2:21 PM  
Blogger Richie McWhite said...

Well, to be fair, Bush did do really well after his "Stop Snorting Coke and Driving Drunk Class."

I blame Clinton.

June 13, 2006 2:41 PM  
Blogger Chancelucky said...

this isn't fair. I'm sure you're the same people that have said the current administration lacked "class" of any kind.

June 13, 2006 3:10 PM  
Blogger Kathleen Callon said...


June 13, 2006 4:52 PM  
Blogger Frederick said...

Ya, I got that letter too,...grumble...grumble...

June 13, 2006 5:20 PM  
Blogger Crackpot Press said...

I committed a crime once. A crime most people have committed at least once or twice, Depending on how high an office you hold.

I did have to take a class... at my expense... and spend the night in jail and do 5 months of community service one day a week.

And if it wasn't done on time.. off to the pokey!

I have learned my lesson.

June 13, 2006 6:47 PM  
Blogger Trial.Lawyer.Richard said...

POP: It is much more insidious than you may think. The Administration has done the bidding of the big financial institutions on the identity theft issue. It is in the interest of the Financial Institutions to be able to extend credit, mail out credit cards and credit checks and to pass around social security numbers like water. The Administration passed Tort Reform on this issue to make it very difficult to hold anyone responsible for revealing your identity to others or for having insufficient security in place to prevent it.

Since that Tort Reform for Identity Theft, safety measures have slowed. The VA has the benefit of this Tort Reform now. The Administration also passed Tort Reform for Class Action Suits. This makes each person injured have to sue individually. Victims of Identity Theft, for example, likely have to sue one by one and run up against the millions of dollars in legal costs. They cannot band together and sue by the thousands (which would make it more financially feasible).

The Administration doesn't feel a class or education is the answer to wrongdoing. They do that to placate the "stupid" masses into thinking they're doing something.

The Administration is the mouthpiece for polluters, manucturers, financial institutions, and insurers. They have done everything possible to make it impossible for the average American to be able to challenge or hold any of them responsible.

The result has been a treasure trove of lobbyist money to the GOP.

We need to turn the GOP out in November.


June 13, 2006 7:38 PM  
Anonymous JollyRoger said...

I got my letter.

I am amazed I wasn't a lot angrier. All I could think about was how much "safer" I am these days. All that wonderful "security."

June 13, 2006 9:55 PM  
Blogger The Fat Lady Sings said...

Well - it seems I am in good company here! My hubby got his letter too - as did oh so many it seems! Did you know Dark Wraith joins our number? And the upshot of this marvelous communication form the oh so powerful Office of Veterans Affairs? You're on your own, Charlie! Figure it out for yourself - we may have screwed up, but we won't help. Yeah - right!

June 14, 2006 12:11 AM  
Blogger GraemeAnfinson said...

They also give classes to police officers who shove lamp shades up black guys asses. I think if you need a class to tell you not to do some of this stuff, you might be too fucked up to be in that position

June 14, 2006 1:00 AM  
Blogger Sue Woo said...

I have offered to teach ethics at the White House! I know you have a hard time believing (as do I) they didn't take me up on it.

Not only was the VA incident stupid, it's illegal. All of that stuff is confidential. The reason those guys aren't supposed to take hose computers home is to maintain the integrity of the information. I'm glad there's a lawsuit.

June 14, 2006 2:47 AM  
Anonymous Betty Cracker said...

Mr. Cracker also received one of those letters from the VA. Class action suit anyone?

June 14, 2006 3:10 AM  
Blogger Trial.Lawyer.Richard said...

POP: Mr. POP should take advantage of the "credit freeze" provisions of the new Fla. Identity Theft Law that begins July 1st:

New Florida Identity Theft Law Starts July 1st

This would give more protection to Mr. POP and those veterans who had their information compromised recently.


June 14, 2006 11:57 AM  
Blogger Jeremy said...

Ahh, the age of Bush administration information privacy. Hey, where are all the pro-privacy anti-big government Republicans these days? Blowing themselves in an alley somewhere?

June 14, 2006 12:17 PM  
Blogger sumo said...

Morons...makes you wonder why this guy had this stuff on his home computer...I would think that to be a bad thing...the possiblility of home theft. At least the work place such as it is...should have been more secure. But in a private residence...foolhardy. Seems fishy to me.

June 14, 2006 2:36 PM  

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