Tuesday, March 07, 2006


Not the year, the number of soldiers killed since the US invaded Iraq.

Two thousand, three hundred flag draped coffins came home from Iraq. There is reason to believe more will follow.

Please take some time today to think about that number. To think about how many families are grieving because one man stood behind a podium almost three years ago and lied to the American public. He said Iraq was a threat to the safety of the US citizens and then he declared a war that, to date, has killed 2300 people from our country. There is no way to know how many innocent Iraqis have died as a result of that one man’s lies.

Why isn’t that a crime? Why isn’t that a moral as well as a legal crime? If states can declare that it’s a moral and legal crime for a woman to receive an abortion based on their belief that the fetus is an individual human being, why aren’t they just as disturbed about the 2300 deaths of these individual human beings in the bloody sands of Iraq?

Today we mourn for 2300 and that number may rise before we go to sleep tonight. Sadly it may have risen by the time you read this piece.


Anonymous Michael Miller said...

Sadly true. And that just counts the number of American soldiers who *officially* died in combat in Iraq. If you die for other reasons or you die with your guts spilling out of the plane as it leaves Iraqi airspace, you don't get counted as part of that statistic.

March 20, 2006 is the third anniversary of what may be the worst geopolitical blunder in 229 years of American history.

March 07, 2006 6:23 AM  
Blogger Frederick said...

Oh come on, it's obvious! How are we going to raise recruitment numbers if we don't ban abortion? Praise God, pass the ammunition, a War without end, Amen.

March 07, 2006 7:40 AM  
Blogger Chancelucky said...

On this topic, I wanted to mention link to Gold Star Mom Speaks Out a site that I have linked to mine.

The blogger is Gold Star Mom, no not that one, and what she says directly about her experience, particularly around simply getting the facts of what happened to her son, needs to be seen by more people.

March 07, 2006 8:56 AM  
Blogger windspike said...

Unfortunately, the number increases - at what point does the number killed in the illegitimate iraq war become one too many?

March 07, 2006 10:30 AM  
Blogger PoliShifter said...

It's sick. It is subhuman. Not to mention the 15,000+ that are seriously wounded with head trauma and missing limbs.

We detain, we torture, we kill, we murder.

Why more people are not outraged is beyond me.

I think it has alot to do with the media not reporting what is going on and insulating us with Natalie Holloway stories.

March 07, 2006 10:37 AM  
Blogger GraemeAnfinson said...

think of how young most of them were. 18,19,20. it is disgusting

March 07, 2006 10:56 AM  
Blogger Montag said...

Why isn’t that a moral as well as a legal crime?

Silly, it's only immoral when they do it. We are the good guys. That's why we have such great television.

March 07, 2006 10:59 AM  
Blogger Rory Shock said...

Yeah, it's horrible. And the collateral damage from those deaths ... the families, the brother, the sister the children, the spouses, the parents ... the friends all injured as well ... and the physically injured but not dead that number in the 10s of thousands already ... many with physical brain damage, lost limbs etc. and the collateral damage along with them ... the pain they carry with them every day ... the effects on their brother, sisters, mothers, fathers, children ... and those with PTSD, depression, etc. and the collateral damage from that which will be passed from generation to generation ... the enormity of BushnCheney's crimes against humanity is mind-blowing and crushing ... and like you said, that's just the U.S. service people we're talking about (and "contractors" as well) ... again ... it was no accident that he withdrew from the world court war crimes tribunal that Clinton had signed up for ... basically, in addition to all the other damage wreaked, BushnCheney has traumatized (physically, mentally and spiritually) hundreds of thousands ... it makes me literally feel sick to my stomach to see the pix of him "paying respects" to Gandhi in India. Kinda like a KKK member "paying respects" to MLK. No wonder you are "pissed off." We all should be plenty pissed. Rock on POP.

March 07, 2006 12:20 PM  
Blogger Kathleen Callon said...

2300 of our soldiers, plus 30000 Iraqis, plus 3000 Afghanis... have we avenged 9/11 yet?

March 07, 2006 3:04 PM  
Blogger Auntie Roo said...

Are these horrors actually based on vengeance for 9/11? Or are there other factors in play here?

It seems to me that 9/11 was merely the opportunity for the neo-cons to put into place policies that they've been salivating over for a number of years. Check out the PNAC (Project for a New American Century) and read their report from September 2000, Rebuilding America's Defenses (PDF) at http://www.newamericancentury.org/publicationsreports.htm.

And don't you find it convenient that the Patriot Act was written & passed so quickly after 9/11? Almost as if it was prepared beforehand...

March 07, 2006 3:28 PM  
Blogger Auntie Roo said...

Ok I'll try again with the link.


March 07, 2006 3:34 PM  
Blogger Left of Center said...

I was looking into that number the other day, and some sources say the number dead is actualy much higher. Seems they dont count many thats died on the way to germany, and many that were reported AWOL are actually dead. Sooner or later I think this will be a major story.

March 07, 2006 4:34 PM  
Blogger pissed off patricia said...

LOL, left of center. I just checked your profile. Funny occupation!

So you're in Fla. I am too. I'm on the east coast about half way down. Due east of the top of Lake O.

March 07, 2006 4:49 PM  
Blogger Left of Center said...

yea I enjoy it, everyday something new. I'm over by Tampa just of I4 and 75. BTW I have alittle something for you.
hope you wil like it.

March 07, 2006 6:01 PM  
Anonymous LILY BRANFORD said...

I'm with LOC that its higher, and with you on your outrage. Good comments here, too.

March 07, 2006 6:02 PM  
Blogger pissed off patricia said...

OMG left of center how do I put that at the top of this page? I want to use that so much, you have no idea. I'm clueless about what to do. Please email me at, nesters at bellsouth dot net and help me do this.

Okay here's something else. I graduated from Hillsborough High as did Mr. Pop. He was born in Tampa and of all the towns that I lived in as a kid, I lived in Tampa the longest. My family moved there when I was 16 yrs old and I lived there until I was 22. Then I married the first time and moved away.

If you will help me get that wonderful pic you linked on this site, I will buy you a cocktail the next time we're visiting in Tampa. That's a promise!

March 07, 2006 6:20 PM  
Blogger Nash said...

The real anger and pain will come from the families of the dead when we finally abandon Iraq to civil war.

"What did our children die for?", they will ask.

But no one will be listening. As with Vietnam, most Americans will just want to forget the Iraq war.
Hollywood will make a couple of watered-down, ambiguous "anti-war" movies about Iraq. We will see them, be deeply moved, and then go to the mall.

We don't like to dwell on the ones we lost. World War Two was much more inspiring. Maybe Spielberg will make "Saving Private Ryan, Part Two" and we can all feel good about war again.

March 07, 2006 6:29 PM  
Blogger pissed off patricia said...

Sadly Nash, you are probably right. A lot of people died in the Vietnam war and no one calls any of them hero. They were used and it's time to stop using our kids'lives for political reasons. They deserve more, we owe them more.

March 07, 2006 6:38 PM  
Blogger Jeremy said...

I also mourn the 16,000+ (estimates are that it's a BIG plus) who have been injured in battle as well. The countless thousands who will be without limbs, who have deformed faces, who will not walk or speak properly again, etc.

And for what now? Can anyone say why we're doing this anymore? Key conservatives can't even back this thing. What a shame. What a fucking shame.

March 07, 2006 6:56 PM  
Blogger eProf2 said...

Hi PoP:

We've been talking about the Rovian using the angry word and how Rep's are supposed to attach it to Dem's, especially Hillary Clinton. I was impressed with Hillary's response (finally) to these charges of being angry yesterday. Have you been writing some of her materials? She used almost the same exact words you sent to me on my blog when I first noted this trend a couple of weeks ago. She told the press that she had plenty to be angry about when it comes to Bush policies. Now, the mainstream pundits are saying that she's fallen for the bait and the Rovians have her cornered. I hope she continues to swing back at these ridicules charges and brings some light on the Bush policies from her campaign for re-election going on now until November.

On a lighter note, the dealership fixed my car today and didn't even hint that the wind was from inside :-)

I, too, liked LOC's logo for you. I wish I could tell you how to post it but I'm just now learning how to use some of the features on blogspot.com.

See you online.


March 07, 2006 6:58 PM  
Blogger pissed off patricia said...

Steve, Hillary learned a lesson from Kerry. Never ignore the swift boating tactic. Swing back and do it fast. Don't let the bastards get you down. Yeah, she called me for advice. LOL
I would have told her to tell Karl to go straight to hell.

March 07, 2006 7:06 PM  
Blogger Neil Shakespeare said...

The numbers are getting rounder all the time, aren't they?

March 08, 2006 1:15 AM  
Blogger a rose is a rose said...

and we're not even ALLOWED to see those flag draped coffins. it might make it more real for us if we did...........

March 08, 2006 2:00 AM  
Blogger SB Gypsy said...

It is a crime, we just don't have enough honest honorable congressmen around to haul his ass into court.

March 08, 2006 10:52 AM  
Blogger leo said...

IN AMERICA we kill 45,000 every WEEKEND trough drunk driving and no one says spit in the civil war in ONE battle that lasted 15 minutes we lost 75,000 lives but in the war in Iraq 2300 in two or three YEARS horrendous? HA HA what a bunch of pissy ass cry baby morons...again don't worry the brave will protect you as always before!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

March 12, 2006 8:23 AM  

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