What’s Senator Obama up against?
A Republican candidate who, when asked when the troops can come home, answered, It’s “not too important” when the troops will be able to come home.
Tell that to their families, Senator McCain. When my friend was in Iraq for 13 months, it was very important to his family and to me when he could come home. Thank goodness he finally did.
Tell that to their families, Senator McCain. When my friend was in Iraq for 13 months, it was very important to his family and to me when he could come home. Thank goodness he finally did.
posted by pissed off patricia at 2:00 AM
23 Comments:
theoretically obama should win all 50 states and the Dist Columbia.
the MSM will never let it happen -- they need a horse race and their love of McInsane (who proves he is more unstable and idiotic every day) will keep this a lot closer - they will constantly trash obama and find every little fault with him
as for mcinsane -- they will find it hard to overlook his foibles - but they will
and asshats like joe scarborough (who is about the most asshatish of them all) will harp on nothingness and ignore things like what mccain said.
Theoretically, it should be a landslide, but this is America and I try not to underestimate the stupidity of my fellow Americans. It'll be a squeaker.
what distributor cap said...says it all...I have had too many friends go - and now going a third time...and NO they are not the same when they get back.....( they are medical...) and yeah, it is REAL important...( Granny's son is on his way btw...go give her a hug)
It will probably be a lot closer than it should be because as fixer says it is always a mistake to underestimate the stupidity of a great many Americans. IT is one of our jobs as good progressives to try and show the potential McSame voters how stupid it would be to have him as President.
The good news is that he seems to be doing a pretty good job of making an ass out of himself on a daily basis and maybe some of this will leak through the media filters.
Let's not forget the Hillary Stepford Wives vote. That should not even be an issue, but have you checked out Craig's Trail Mix blog lately?
The nation of imbeciles that re-elected Bush in 04 is capable of almost anything. But I'm expecting Obama to win by a couple of percentage points. Maybe more if gas is $5/gallon by November.
Obama is up against Uncle Fester with a comb-over and a spiffy suit.
This will never be a shoo-in - at least I don't think it will be.
Look at the microscope that Obama is already under.
He should be ready for it - it is going to get hot.
A lot of crap will get put out there - it doesn't matter that it is true in the land of the not free, not brave and blind. People will believe a lot of sensationalist Rove-style propaganda.
Moron.
Not you obviously.
What is hard to wrap your mind around is that if the election were done today, and McCain got Bush's 24% popularity numbers, he would lose the election, no surprise. 76% popular vote to Obama, 24% to McCain would be that scenario.
But since it works so arcanely, it would be by only about a 20-25% loss in Electoral College votes. That's how stilted the progress is, so we must be absoultely vigilant.
Speaking of Scarborough,(gag), I haven't noticed him on David Gregory's show since Rachel very politely but firmly put him in his place and he threw a very public hissy fit and evidently walked of the set in a snit during a break. I wonder if he has refused to serve on a panel with her now? What a damn WATB. Or is that WTAB? (Excuse my language, please PoP).
One person that I DO miss, however, is Ron Reagan. What has happened to him? He was about the one bright spot on Tweety's show but seems to have disappeared. I don't know if anyone else thinks so, but to me he and Rachel look like they could be brother and sister. I love them both. Wish we had many more of their caliber on MSM.
Here, here.
Luf, Us
i've been wondering where he's been too! i like him.
as to the election. i never underestimate the power of large groups of stupid!
I agree--never underestimate the gullibility of Amurkans. Frightening, but true.
if this were a sane world, people would realize that Obama is running against a wet-noodle. but this isn't a sane world and, truly, anything can happen between now and November-- more's the pity.
I am going to be very disappointed in America if Obama doesn't win by a gigantic margin.
John McCain's "not too important" comment about bringing the troops home has a chilling complement in this week's TIME Magazine cover story, "The U.S. Military's Secret Weapon." The weapon is antidepressant drugs.
These drugs address neurochemical causes and symptoms ... but not social ones. Drugging soldiers and sending them back to battle is sending them back to a cause of depression and trauma, again and again...
It sickens me. Drug 'em up and send 'em back until they come home in coffins or too broken to fix.
Obviously, the U.S. military is running out of options...and bodies to send to the slaughter.
My heart is with every single soldier...
(Your site is wonderful -- I've just discovered it today via FranIAm.)
People are being that believe that Obama if elected will bring home the troops from Iraq instantaneously are suffering delusions of grandeur and doing so will create an abyss that will be filled by terrorists and create an even more complicated situation in which American troops will have to go back in with additional American blood and treasure will be lost.
For all those that want immediate withdrawal please tell me what your plan is in detail other than leaving it in the hands of an unstable Iraqi government ill-prepared to handle the onslaught of terrorism. It is easy to say withdraw, the solution is far more difficult. Bush was an idiot and a buffoon to involve us in this war, but it is like trying to get toothpaste back inside the tube
--Heather
The Right Wing is going to give Obama a lesson on how to really inject race into a campaign, and it's going to be bloody filthy dirty.
But even if he wins, the money machine will prevent him from bringing the troops home, as much as he may want to. As some one who "donated" a Son to this war early on in it's inception, nobody wants those kids home worse than I do, and nobody hates that war worse than I do. But business runs this country and the world now, not the President of any country.
Obama will learn that, should he get there.
Heather,
The onslaught of terrorism is there because WE are there. Prior to our interruption of their daily lives to murder a ruthless dictator, they had no terrorism in their country save for their ruthless leader.
So, yeah, it's a fucked up situation now.... we CAN'T leave, but we should leave.
As for detailed plans, hell, Bush doesn't even know how to get out. Every military campaign is supposed to have an exit strategy. This one, apparently, doesn't have one. That's poor planning. That's poor presidenting. That's just bad warmongering.
Probably.
Heh! I take it you watched Olbermann's special comment. If McCain becomes president, we can expect many more televised bitch-slaps on "Countdown."
Why must you twist Bush McCain's words? It's almost as if you don't like him.
as for the "we must get out/we can't get out" argument--
I predict we WILL whether or not we 'CAN'.
unlike many of you, I remember the horrible withdrawal from Vietnam.
then, too, much discussion went into "we must/we cannot" "we'll leave a bloodbath behind" "the commies will win" the dominoes will fall" etc. etc. etc.
well, we did pull out. precipitously so.
we filled their waterways with helicopters and left humongous numbers of land mines behind. we abandoned people who had helped us to their fates and rescued people who had acted as our enemies. we left behind American MIA's who were, almost certainly, alive when we pulled out.
etc. etc. etc.
so, though I take no pleasure in it, I predict this situation will look much the same when we leave -- no matter when we do it.
it's just a matter of: do we make the decision to leave a blood-bath behind us sooner rather than later? or do we just keep on killing Iraqis and our own kids rather than face the harsh reality that THERE IS NO GOOD DECISION at this point?
the last time a good decision could have been made re Iraq was if we hadn't invaded in the first place. ever since the US invaded, this outcome was inevitable.
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