Wednesday, June 13, 2007

Careful what you wish for

Bush spent the past six and a half years convincing the people of the United States that they should be afraid. They should be afraid of people from other countries coming here with the intention of killing Americans by the thousands.

Now he wants his immigration bill and those people that he so successfully made afraid are looking at the thousands of immigrants coming freely across the borders each day and saying, Hey, those are the sorts of people you told us to fear. Stop them!

They want the borders sealed so someone with the intention of killing Americans by the thousands can’t get into our country. Bush wanted a frightened America and now that he has it, he has to deal with it. I guess even the decider guy can’t have it both ways all the time.


Blogger Undeniable Liberal said...

The Commander guy's cronies loves them some cheap labor.

June 13, 2007 4:05 AM  
Blogger Peacechick Mary said...

I'm just curious about what really happened when the jug of cider called the Rethugs up to the White House to twist their arms. What does the administration have on them?

June 13, 2007 4:36 AM  
Blogger fallenmonk said...

Maybe these guys will take this lesson in the value of short term thinking to heart but don't count on it. All Bush and his corporate controllers can see is the immediate profit from all the cheap labor and as long as these guys are driving the bus that will be the controlling much money can I make.

June 13, 2007 4:47 AM  
Blogger Pursey Tuttweiler said...

Bush can't blurt out the long term goal of uniting Mexico, US and Canada into one big country. In the short term, he has a situation on his hands, doesn't he? Cheap labor is too hard to resist. I am so glad the little focker is facing a problem.

June 13, 2007 5:49 AM  
Blogger JM said...

It's the only thing he's been able to do effectively, using fear as a weapon. Poetic justice that his creation should come back to bit him in the ass. Too bad the irony police don't have an incarceration facility.

June 13, 2007 5:52 AM  
Blogger robin andrea said...

He only wants people to be afraid when he tells them to be afraid. I guess part of his plan has backfired. I heard a song the other day on Air America. You've probably heard it before, but just in case-- To the tune of the Lion Sleeps Tonight:
In the white house, the mighty white house
The liar sleeps tonight...

June 13, 2007 7:00 AM  
Blogger Mimus Pauly said...

I like Ward Churchill's approach to ensuring national security: "You want your children to be safe, stop killing other people's babies -- or looking the other way while they die." It'll never catch on, of course. Too sensible.

However, it might be a good idea for Republican candidates for president to not endorse the practice of waterboarding in front of a camera. It might also be a good idea for the audience to not applaud when a Republican candidate says that. I'd say they ought to realize for themselves that these things only make the rest of the world more suspicious of us, but that's too sensible, too...

June 13, 2007 7:24 AM  
Blogger mommanator said...

I feel for the folks coming across the border,BUT they should come legally as my momma did!
I know I wouldn't be the pres for all the tea in China- always having to remember what I said a min ago!

June 13, 2007 8:29 AM  
Blogger LET'S TALK said...

"Bush spent the past six and a half years convincing the people of the United States that they should be afraid"

Total fascism, I cant believe this guy actually thought he could persuade the Republican party to go along with this immigration bill.

I do not agree that all you have here is cheap labor. After coming here and getting with the program, most move on to construction and other jobs that a lot of American's would love to have.

What happens to the money made; is it sent back south?

What about the tax on said money made?

June 13, 2007 8:54 AM  
Anonymous scott said...

I’ve never fully thought through the illegal immigration issue, but my hunch is that it is a good deal more complicated than a lot of us want to let on. Our economy has always depended on immigrants, legal or otherwise, to do a lot of hard, dirty jobs that most of us prefer not to do. Agriculture cannot do without them. When you eat a salad or a piece of fruit or a boneless, skinless chicken breast, think alien—most likely illegal. If you are younger than 40, you have probably never eaten a meal that an illegal did not have a hand in making. As soon as I can wear out my Snapper, I expect to join the other 4 million Houstonians who enjoy having their yards tended for $30 a week. We built a pool a couple of years ago. Who tied the steel, sprayed the gunite, stamped the concrete, laid the tile and troweled the plaster? You guessed it! Unfortunately, many of those who came illegally—the ones GWB wants to fine and send to the back of the line—are the hardest workers, the ones with the most initiative, the ones who would rather be at home with their families if they could provide for their families by staying home.

I agree that this administration has used fear more than any other I can bring to mind. They definitely want us afraid. But I don’t think fear is why our national psyche is focused on the southern border. Given our collective (in my opinion) insanely hysterical reaction to 9/11, if fear of bombers crossing the Rio Grande was the driver there would already be a border patrol agent stationed every fifteen feet from Port Isabel to Chula Vista.

My theory is that all people are born with an intolerance gene. Some people suppress it more or less successfully. Some people out and out embrace it. To society’s credit, overt hatred of and discrimination against black and Jewish Americans is now espoused only by those on the fringe like skinheads and white supremacists. But the hate vote has not gone away and it is being pandered to. In most districts politicians can benefit by not so subtly bashing homosexuals in “defense of marriage.” Illegals, especially the brown- skinned, Spanish speaking variety are easy for a “feller to be agin.” They provide a great distraction for your constituency when you would rather not be asked to address, hunger, homelessness, lack of health care and war.

Sorry for the long serman. I have some work I have been trying to avoid.

June 13, 2007 9:25 AM  
Anonymous fairlane said...

Bush has always been popular in the Latin community, and this is nothing new.

Personally, I really don't think or care much about the immigration issue. My ancestors were immigrants, several escaped from Nazi Germany and several others the potato famine in Ireland. I imagine if they had to cross a border "illegally" they'd do so, and I can't blame people trying to escape abject poverty. I'd do anything for my daughter, and I imagine the "illegals" feel the same way.

Why not target the people hiring them if we're so "upset" over this issue? Of course, that would be "bad for business" because, after all, business is what makes all of us human.

This country makes about as much sense as the David Lynch movie "Lost Highway".

June 13, 2007 10:00 AM  
Blogger Batocchio said...

It really is funny to see the same tactics bite Bush.

June 13, 2007 10:36 AM  
Blogger Ohio Neocon said...

Bush's tactics are not coming back to bite him. He is thinking long-term strategy in regards to immigration reform, just as he is thinking long-term strategy in Iraq. What the defeatocRats don't understand these are very complicated issues that cannot be solved in one day. By looking far into the future, I think that the Bush strategy on immigration is going to do wonders for our country.

June 13, 2007 10:56 AM  
Anonymous fairlane said...

"Bush's tactics are not coming back to bite him. He is thinking long-term strategy in regards to immigration reform, just as he is thinking long-term strategy in Iraq."

Bush couldn't think his way through an episode of "Three's Company".

What are you smoking, and can I get some?

June 13, 2007 11:28 AM  
Blogger sumo said...

Ohio de de!

June 13, 2007 11:56 AM  
Blogger seventh sister said...

I think that the only way to effectively deal with immigration is to do whatever it takes to help folks to be able to make a living whereever they are. Then they won't feel the need to be leaving home and going to another country. It is not just a problem here. Europe is dealing with the same issues. There are things we can do. Micro finance organizations such as Kiva and fair trade retailers like Ten Thousand Villages are a start.

June 13, 2007 3:39 PM  
Blogger windspike said...

Because you raise the issue of fear here, you may want to have a look at my post from Saturday on the "Psychosis of fear..."

found here:

I'd be curious to know what you think.

June 13, 2007 5:30 PM  
Anonymous Knox Rover said...

To Let's Talk: Yes, A LOT of the money made by illegal immigrants is sent back to Mexico. My boyfriend works at a place that has Western Union (here in San Diego), and at his store alone, they send several thousands of dollars a day to Mexico.

June 13, 2007 6:58 PM  
Blogger BBC said...

Your ancestors were immigrants and terrorists. And you would be also if you didn't like it where you lived because it was so bad there.

But you have it well here, are you thankful for that? I mean really thankful? Do you stand on a street every week holding a sign protesting wars?

Or is a blog in the comfort of your own home all you do? Just asking. Hugs.

June 13, 2007 7:56 PM  
Blogger American Scot said...

I like how you connected the two issues.
You're exactly right, he has reaped what he has sewn!

June 18, 2007 10:36 PM  

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