Saturday, September 30, 2006

Criminal?

Based upon what we know so far, do you think there should be a criminal investigation into the activities of Florida Congressman Mark Foley?

34 Comments:

Blogger Human said...

Yes. It should include just what Hastert and Boehner knew and when.

They knew about it a year ago.

Evidently the Center for Missing and Exploited Children are still backing Foley.

I will see if I can reach someone at thier office today. Most likely monday.
If so I will write them and notify that I am taking their link down. I mean why would they still stand with this creep?

Peace.

September 30, 2006 5:30 AM  
Blogger Midwestern Progressive said...

I think it will go beyond Foley's transgressions. GOP House leadership appears to have covered up for Foley, and also failed to inform Democratic leadership on the House page board.

September 30, 2006 5:41 AM  
Blogger Peacechick Mary said...

I hear Foley is going into a monestary to embrace the priesthood.

As for criminal charges - absolutely. The man wrote the law that will tie him up and, failure to report criminal behavior is subject to the law as well. That is if we still have laws.

September 30, 2006 6:20 AM  
Blogger Jamie said...

Certainly there should be an investigation into his activities, particularly now that the rumors have started about additional emails.

It would appear that he is more in to talking and viewing than anything else, but that is often where deeply criminal behavior starts. If Hastert and Boehner were covering for him, they should go as well.

Many pedophiles seek out occasions where they can come into contact with young people. What better image than heading up the caucus on Missing and Exploited Children.

September 30, 2006 6:29 AM  
Blogger Gort said...

Investigate the leadership as well. The reports say he was a known creep and his bosses did nothing.

September 30, 2006 6:42 AM  
Blogger The Beltway B@stard said...

Oh yes, a very big investigation. If a civilian complaint were made to a local police department, it would be fully investigated - if for anything, to ensure no other laws were being violated.

The allegations against the Congressman should be handled no differently, than in the civilian world.

One of the biggest problems in government today, is the lack of real judicial process against elected officals and V.I.P.'s because of their public status. I think it's time to change that mentallity.

September 30, 2006 7:04 AM  
Blogger betmo said...

at this point- does it matter? he wouldn't be charged with anything anyway. congress would just pass legislation that kept him out of harm's way.

September 30, 2006 7:14 AM  
Blogger bluegrrrrl said...

At the very least he should be indicted for criminal creepiness. The whole thing just reeks of pedophilia...from what I have read, Foley claims it was all a misunderstanding. Apparently there was enough truth in the allegations to make him abruptly resign. Sounds like fodder for a criminal investigation to me.

September 30, 2006 7:59 AM  
Blogger DoctorBoogaloo said...

Like all the rest of these creeps, Foley, no doubt, was simply doing 'research' for a book.
Lock him up.

September 30, 2006 8:22 AM  
Blogger BrotherCurmudgeon said...

Please!!! No "investigation!" He has resigned. That tells everyone that he is guilty. Or at least he has a guilt complex.

The money that the congress has wasted on investigations is horrific. War money!! Rebuilding money!! Disaster money!! Investigation money!!

In the famous words of the late Sen. Everret Dirkson, "pretty soon we will be talking about 'real' money

September 30, 2006 8:40 AM  
Anonymous Betty Cracker said...

I'm pretty sure exchanging sexually explicit emails with a minor is a crime. If so, he should be investigated and prosecuted. I also hope there's an investigation into the GOP cover-up.

September 30, 2006 9:03 AM  
Anonymous Knox Rover said...

Why should HE be charged? Surely you know that this, too, is Clinton's fault. Clinton could have stopped Foley years ago when he saw him look at a teen-aged page walk down a Capitol hallway. This poor man...if only Clinton had acted earlier.

September 30, 2006 9:16 AM  
Blogger Reflections said...

He resigned because there is more that he doesn't to come out. I guess he admitted that. So, yes he should be investigated.

September 30, 2006 9:17 AM  
Anonymous JollyRoger said...

I don't believe there's any question about it. Mark, by resigning, basically assured us that there is worse still out there and he wanted to protect his pension.

September 30, 2006 9:18 AM  
Blogger Granny said...

Sure, as the police would investigate anyone else.

September 30, 2006 10:05 AM  
Blogger TheCultureGhost said...

Give him a chance to fall on his sword and be done with it.

September 30, 2006 10:29 AM  
Blogger Beach Bum said...

Hell Yes, Funny thing though. Stopped on CSPAN this morning and listened to some sort of talk show bringing people in from all over the country. Some republican nitwit, I'm being nice, called in and equated Foley with Clinton and why did Foley have to resign when Clinton did not because of a mere sexual scandal. I know IQ points are in really short supply these last few years but I was surprised enough to almost spill my coffee over that one. All things being equal the fact that Foley was trying to make it with a TEENAGER seemed to be lost on the good caller.

September 30, 2006 10:51 AM  
Blogger Bill said...

peacechick mary, laws are not optional but enforcing them is optional. I think that's the question. Should the law be enforced? They'll at least pretend.

It'll be interesting to see who comes to his defence. Seeking santuary in a monastary might be a good idea and especially so if liberals win the up coming election.

His problem is a lot like Clinton's with Monica except what he did is a problem as well as lying about it. He's not alone in the lying department either it seems. Let's see if those who were so ready to lynch Clinton are still up to the game. Monica was an adult wasn't she? Interesting diversion from bloodshed and misery in Iraq.

September 30, 2006 10:53 AM  
Blogger The Pagan Temple said...

Seems to me they've got plenty of probably cause to get a warant to confiscate all his computers, just in case he's got some kiddie porn stored away somewhere. Plus, those e-mails might just be the tip of the ice-berg, a small percentage of what he;s sent out to other kids and teen web-sites.

September 30, 2006 12:39 PM  
Blogger Bryan said...

He sponsored the law that makes what he did illegal. Under the Federal law and Florida law, 18 is the cut-off between adult and child in this case.

I would recommend he cop a plea with the Feds, because he definitely does not want to try the Florida system in an election year.

It's your district, POP, you know how people will react inland. I think he needs to relocate.

The Congressional leadership has a problem because the pages are at a boarding school run by Congress. Schools have reporting requirements, and those requirements weren't met.

At this point, I don't see how not conducting a criminal investigation is a viable option.

September 30, 2006 12:51 PM  
Blogger Walt said...

I love the idea of the wingnuts trying to compare Clinton and Foley.

Clinton - adult female
Foley - adolescent male

Which, I would ask, is more repellent to his Republican constituents?

Now, for Hastert, Boehner and Shimkus: They tried to cover it up. That conjures up the phrase "conspiracy to obstruct justice."

September 30, 2006 1:58 PM  
Anonymous glenda said...

What Clinton did was inappropriae but consensual, with an adult. Also legal!

This was illegal and predatory. Minors cannot give consent under the law.

End of discussion. Now can this new torture law apply to him??

September 30, 2006 2:36 PM  
Blogger Bill said...

This is the most screwed up administration in my lifetime and worse than anything historians have seen fit to write about those before my time. Foley is caught in a trap of his own making. Bush is caught with his "stay the curse" in Iraq.

Does this have anything to do with their high moral standards? If Johnny Carson was alive he'd ask, "how high are they?" It's a thousand times worse when the righteous don't parctice what they demand of everyone else. That's the point I was trying to make by mentioning Clinton.

September 30, 2006 3:27 PM  
Blogger Human said...

I'll be calling Hastert and Boehner's offices(local and DC) monday. 1)When did the Congressman know that Rep. Foley was a child predator?

2)Does the Congressman know of any other child predators in the House?

3)To call taker - Do you know of any child predator in the House?

4)to call taker - I think the Congressman shielded a child predator from the Law. You sound like a nice person and I'm surprised anyone is standing by these sick bastards.

Then I will call the DC Metropolitan Police Dept. I'm pretty sure not reporting a sexual crime against a child is against the Law. I know it is in Pa and MD. I'll report Reps Hastert and Boehner.

Please join me in this campaign.

I just watched CNN's "coverage".

Dana Bash just covered for the Repugs - "The issue is confused".

"Democrats are pouncing on this".

"The Republicans are trying to get answers".

Nothing about the Law.

They then did a 3 minute piece on "The Life of a Page".

September 30, 2006 3:27 PM  
Blogger Human said...

MSNBC's "Question of the Day" -
"Do you think most models and celebrities are too skinny?"

Just where is that liberal media I keep a hearing about?

Peace.

September 30, 2006 3:49 PM  
Blogger Lew Scannon said...

I think knox pover may be onto something. Now, If Foley had given or received a blow job with a sixteen year old boy.....

September 30, 2006 8:49 PM  
Blogger troutsky said...

I wonder what the record is for most perps in one congress? We must be getting close. Why can't they bring old Conred Burns down?

September 30, 2006 9:29 PM  
Blogger Time said...

The morally superior Republicans?

Faith based, family first, religious, frauds!

Impeach a President for lying about a BJ with a consenting adult, but hide and protect one of their own from soliciting a minor!

Don't let Congress investigate, let the police investigate.

The lies of these leaders has caused the deaths of our troops, and now their letting our children be targets of perverts.

What low down scum bags! Can Hasstert or any Republican leader really be taken seriously?

The next time these "religious for social face only" jerks are in church, maybe they can explain to the Lord why they would allow one of their own to harm children.

WHEN ARE WE GOING TO IMPEACH THESE CREEPS!!!

October 01, 2006 3:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, I do. He helped pass a federal law that made his activities a federal crime when done with someone younger than eighteen.

However, I even more strongly feel there should be a criminal investigation of the (non-) activities of the House Republican leadership with regards to this matter. It looks to me like Hastert abetted said crimes.

- oddjob

October 01, 2006 12:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This was illegal and predatory. Minors cannot give consent under the law.

What's especially weird/ironic about this is that the age of consent in DC is 16, but there is a federal law (that Foley helped pass) making this kind of talk on the internet illegal with anyone younger than eighteen.

Therefore, if he had had sex with the page in DC, that would have been legal, but he didn't do that (so far as we know). He did this via internet communication, so it was a federal crime.

Ever heard of someone being hoisted so hard on their own petard?

- oddjob

October 01, 2006 1:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now the FBI has started an investigation and the Hastert has asked for an investigation.

Will be interesting to see what effects (if any) this scandal has on things.

- oddjob

October 01, 2006 5:30 PM  
Blogger Blueberry said...

The emails might have been "overly friendly" but that IM chat that I saw posted through Raw Story and elsewhere is very graphic and explicit (http://tinyurl.com/olnte) -- the kid is worried about his mom catching him (measuring his hoohah and what-not, as requested by MF) then ends the chat because he has homework. GAH! Who knows if it was even the same kid, bet it wasn't. The old troll!!

For Foley, I hope they throw his own book at him. As for Hastert et al, if people don't stay on this issue and keep it alive he will get away with saying he didn't know the extent of it, blah blah blah. Ignorance is bliss, eh?

October 01, 2006 8:37 PM  
Blogger sumo said...

Definitely should have legal encounters with the judicial system...and quickly!

October 01, 2006 11:31 PM  
Blogger Citisucks said...

Yes, and not just because he is a child molestor, because he is a corporate terrorist as well.

October 06, 2006 4:36 PM  

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