Saturday, January 06, 2007

Perhaps a bit of Premature Jubilation

“It was a deep political intuition, and the war succeeded because when Baghdad collapsed, everything else went. It was I think at the root of the success was a deep political understanding. And the larger impression is that it showed that we have the capacity to wage this kind of war with relatively few casualties, both among combatants on the allied side and among civilians on the other side. And that I think has had a deep impression in the region and around the world. The only people in the world who still think that--who question whether or not we won in Iraq are Upper West Side liberals who aren't quite sure that we won the Cold War either—“
-Charles Krauthammer- (Speaking at AEI meeting)
April 22, 2003

Lots of "Upper West Side Liberals" around today, huh?


Blogger BBC said...

Lot's of everything around today. Life has become a big pot of gray soup without no clear colors in it. Umm, no rainbows.

January 06, 2007 6:40 AM  
Blogger Donnie McDaniel said...

But POP, the decider says we are winning!

January 06, 2007 7:21 AM  
Blogger Blueberry said...

That's from 2003, wonder if he'd say the same thing today. Looks like somebody bought into that whole "Mission Accomplished" crap hook, line and sinker. Funny that his impression seems to be that the war is over. -- signed, a South Austin Texas liberal.

January 06, 2007 7:41 AM  
Blogger Peacechick Mary said...

Upper, lower, middle, east west, south north liberals all over the place - we're swarming and we sting!

January 06, 2007 9:43 AM  
Blogger Anne said...

me? i am upper west side... of the west coast.
there has always been a core group of citizens vehemently opposed to the war in iraq. i wasn't supportive of the afghanistan invasion, either.
it's just that now, more people finally get what a lot of folks got FROM THE START. that this is a sham, a lie, and a violent mistake.
what continues to bug me is that anyone believed it was ever the right thing to do. the group mind is a frightening thing. so sheep-like.
(pardon my blathering)

January 06, 2007 10:34 AM  
Blogger Mark Prime (tpm/Confession Zero) said...

If this man said those things then there is one lonely sraight-jacket out there missing its owner.

January 06, 2007 10:53 AM  
Blogger C-dell said...

I never supported the war in Iraq. We most likely never will win this war, but maybe our reputation will not be forever tarnished.

C-dell, Proud Liberal.

January 06, 2007 1:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These political gurus, professional smart guys whom are adored so much by so many of us usually will become causualties of their own words if you give them time. This reminds me about a chimp (not that one) who was given an investment portfolio to take care of for a year. He was set against a bunch of financial consultants to see who will get the best performance. The chimp (not that one) scored way above the average.

Sincerely yours,
Liberal Chimp

January 06, 2007 2:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Perhaps the only thing more contemptible than Krauthammer and his fellow travelers' ill-founded jubilation then is their complete lack of remorse now. Instead of expressing regret for the fiasco they enabled, they're busily spinning narratives to explain why it's not their fault.

The two most popular are that Bush bungled the execution of a fabulous idea or that the Iraqis are hopelessly violent brutes who trample the fruits of liberty we so generously offered. Krauthammer's most recent column takes up the latter line:

We should not be surging American troops in defense of such a government. This governing coalition -- Maliki's Dawa, Abdul Aziz al-Hakim's Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq and Sadr's Mahdi Army -- seems intent on crushing the Sunnis at all costs. Maliki should be made to know that if he insists on having this sectarian war, he can well have it without us.

Welcome to the ranks of the disenchanted, Mr. Krauthammer. Glad you're on the side of right regarding the "surge." But screw you for spending the last six years waving pom-poms for the Shrub. You helped create the situation. A little humility is in order.

January 07, 2007 4:46 AM  
Blogger COLORADO BOB said...

Cast your eye on this :

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January 07, 2007 6:32 AM  
Blogger Lew Scannon said...

I don't think Krauthammer and his ilk have learned their lesson at all, because if you asked them if we should attack Iran, you'll find they're all for that. Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

January 07, 2007 7:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What kills me is that these people have been wrong on everything they have said, from the very start... at this point, why listen to anything they have to say anymore?

January 07, 2007 8:09 AM  
Blogger SB Gypsy said...

Why listen indeed. It could be that even tho we know they're wrong - they, through a deeply flawed administration, hold the reins of the military, and will do whatever they want (in our name) for the next two years regardless of what we want or know.

January 07, 2007 8:20 AM  
Blogger poopie said...

Heh. This NW Tennessee liberal objects!

January 07, 2007 9:38 AM  
Blogger PoliShifter said...

God those AEI pukes are almost as bad as the PNAC pukes.

These people have NO BUSINESS influence U.S. Foreign Policy.

Guess where Lieberman was recently? Giving a talk at the AEI.

How many times do they need to be proven wrong before people in our gov say "ok, we've heard your bullshit before, we're not falling for it this time...there's the door."

January 07, 2007 10:33 AM  
Blogger fallenmonk said...

These people cannot admit they were and are wrong since it will destroy the whole foundation of their world picture and how they see themselves. It takes courage to admit that you are wrong and that is an attribute these people have absolutely none of.

January 07, 2007 11:13 AM  
Blogger Graeme said...

The AEI is a group full of pseudo-murderers

January 07, 2007 12:27 PM  
Blogger Undeniable Liberal said...

Hurry up and kiss me honey! I think I'm going cu-cu-cu-cuuuummmmmm. Too late, goodnite...........

January 07, 2007 1:58 PM  
Blogger The Future Was Yesterday said...

Um....well, a lower, "southern side" Liberal thinks somebody was spouting what Fred meticulously oovers up!

January 07, 2007 4:11 PM  
Blogger Pursey Tuttweiler said...

Who knew the majority of the US population lived in the Upper West Side? Only Charles, I guess.

January 07, 2007 5:48 PM  
Blogger Sewmouse said...

Golly Gee, Mr. Krauthammer - I thought I lived in the midwestern suburbs...

January 08, 2007 5:13 AM  
Blogger thephoenixnyc said...

Hahahahahha. I am an ACTUAl UWS liberal. I live on West 75th St.

And I am sorry to say my protests, writings, howlings and warnings have all come true.

Although when I first made them I was a lower east side liberal in 2002.

January 08, 2007 9:17 AM  
Blogger troutsky said...

We need a 24/ 7 television station re-playing the lies and optimistic rants and ridiculous analysis that was being spewed at that time. People have already forgotten,

January 09, 2007 9:44 PM  

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